Industry committee  If this amendment were in force, yes. I think we would be more involved in their operations...

Industry committee  Yes.

Industry committee  Sorry, it's more than formalize, because the process is already formalized. The accreditation process and the audit process are already formalized. We have a series of accreditation requirements that someone has to meet. But it would add to it in terms of what we do with the information, in terms of how we manage.

Industry committee  Yes, it would create an expectation that we're training everybody exactly the same way. My interpretation of the uniform as well is that even.... In our process for qualifying these people, we don't use the same theoretical exam all the time. We mix up the questions because we know these people speak to each other.

Industry committee  Thank you, Mr. Cardin. That was what I was trying to say 15 minutes ago. We're talking about electricity and gas. Our opinion is that it isn't necessary to add this section to the Electricity and Gas Inspection Act. We have consulted our stakeholders, and it was not determined to be an issue.

Industry committee  I tend to agree with everything you said, Mr. Lake. I guess the other thing I would bring forward, again speaking about ENG, is that we have different types of organizations that are accredited. We have manufacturers as well as utilities. A manufacturer, for example, may institute some in-process verification of a meter that would count toward the final verification or the final inspection.

Industry committee  We're looking at retail food, retail fuel, off the top of my head. It's hard here. I'm under pressure.

Industry committee  Retail food, retail fuel, downstream petroleum, grain and field crops, the mining sector, dairy, fishing, and logging.

Industry committee  It will be. Then to address the uniformity issue as well, as I've said before, prior to becoming accredited or registered, an organization has to submit inspection procedures that are approved and authorized for use by Measurement Canada. We're looking at the inspection procedures through the lens of whether it is working properly and does it look like ours, basically, with concessions, as I said, for things like manufacturing processes versus utilities.

Industry committee  Well, the technology is different. Even within the retail fuel sector, the standards that it may use, approved standards, may be different. You may have a pipe prover or you may have a volumetric prover.

Industry committee  So the standards it uses, as long as they're suitable, will require a different inspection procedure. Again, Measurement Canada would have to calibrate and certify the standard that's being used, so we evaluate its suitability for purpose when we calibrate it, whether it's reproducible, whether it repeats, and whether it's within tolerance.

Industry committee  I see it as problematic, yes.

Industry committee  The compliance rates are significantly higher under the E&G; act--

Industry committee  I don't have the data in front of me, but I suspect they are in and around the area of the fuel dispensers.

Industry committee  We're not targeting a specific industry. The scope of the bill is the eight trade sectors that we'll initially be regulating in. Some of the sectors have far lower compliance rates. The inspection frequencies that we will be proposing were consulted upon with our stakeholders. CIPMA and CPPI at the time agreed with the inspection frequencies that were set forward.