Government Operations committee  Yes.

Government Operations committee  The question is whether the $1.9 billion is spent?

Government Operations committee  Because the way we deliver the programs—and the real property representative is here and can elaborate—is that we choose the right mix. As the deputy mentioned, we are project-driven. For each project, we choose the right mix of resources. Some projects require hiring staff or using staff; other projects require outsourcing, etc.

Government Operations committee  Correct.

Government Operations committee  That's a very good question. I would say that when these events happen they rarely occur exactly the same way. As I mentioned, because of our capacity, we are revenue dependent. We are used to adjusting to fluctuations in markets and managing the unknown. When reprofiling doesn't happen one year, then it happens the following year.

Government Operations committee  Would you like to take that question...? It's a subsidiary of the Canada Lands Corporation that is totally independent from Public Works and Government Services Canada. Our minister is responsible for these organizations, these Crown corporations. What you want to know more about is—

Government Operations committee  Okay. These amounts, so the $354,000, will be used to manage everything related to administering communications. There are internal costs, costs that existed previously with Transport Canada, because Transport Canada managed that Crown corporation. These amounts have now been transferred to Public Works and Government Services Canada.

Government Operations committee  Absolutely.

Government Operations committee  I'll try to answer your question, but I'm not an expert in electronic payments. What I can tell you is that the Internet is the tool of choice, the tool that Canadians and the business world chooses for doing business with the federal government. They want to make sure that access is secure and that all private information is protected.

Government Operations committee  As I said, this entire business element is now under Shared Services Canada, and the deputy minister is Ms. Liseanne Forand. I think she was invited to appear before this committee. She or her staff will be here on December 8. It's a relevant question. I think they would be in a better position to answer.

Government Operations committee  Thank you for the question. The Canada Lands Corporation and its divisions, including the Old Port of Montreal Corporation, were transferred to our department. Our department became the one responsible for these Crown corporations. They are not part of the Department of Public Works and Government Services, but they are attached to the Public Works portfolio.

Government Operations committee  Real property, for sure.

Government Operations committee  It varies from year to year depending on where the growth is happening. Some programs are more revenue dependent than others. I don't want to sound technical, but as you know, we provide optional services. These are 100% revenue dependent. For instance, translation services, real property, and specialized services are on an optional basis, so if there is growth in those programs, the revenues grow accordingly.

Government Operations committee  It's very minimal.

Government Operations committee  But to answer your question about the top three, real property services are up there. The second one is telecom informatic services, but this service has now been fully transferred to the new shared services, Shared Services Canada. The third one is translation services. There is about $200 million to $220 million in revenue for translation.