Procedure and House Affairs committee  What I'm saying is that, if former prime minister Stephen Harper had been briefed that there had been foreign interference with someone who was going to run, he would have dealt—

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I can't have an opinion on something I'm unaware of. My understanding is there was no briefing regarding Mr. Dechert in terms of what happened in 2011. As I said, all I can say is that, as the campaign director in 2015, CSIS never informed me or briefed me on any concerns they had with any candidate who ran for the Conservative Party of Canada during the 2015 election campaign.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I don't think there's been enough information. I'm telling you there was no briefing and there was no evidence provided. There were newspaper reports. CSIS hasn't come out and said that they briefed the Prime Minister of Canada and he ignored that information, unlike the party here.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I believe what has been reported in the press regarding foreign interference in the 2019 and 2021 campaign because the Liberal government has admitted it's actually been true. The information is coming from CSIS officials, who obviously feel so concerned about what's going on in terms of the ignoring of briefings on foreign interference that they obviously feel the only course of action they have right now is to be whistle-blowers within the press.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I was a senior adviser.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  Is there an election coming up soon?

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I received the information from press reports.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I have not.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  The 2015 election campaign was not affected by any form of foreign interference that I was aware of.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  The main threats in terms of foreign interference...?

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I'm sorry. Could you repeat yourself?

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I think there were a lot of issues that were of importance during the 2015 election campaign. I would have to say—and I know your NDP colleague is going to ask questions—that the only form of foreign interference that I was aware of leading into the 2015 campaign was the Tides funding of Leadnow, which had a vote now organization that focused on 29 electoral districts.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  What I can say is that I know I was never briefed on any form of interference from Beijing in terms of election interference for the two national campaigns that I ran. The difference between that and what we're seeing with the current government is that it's evident they were briefed several times and chose to ignore it.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  I don't understand what you.... I actually don't know what you're talking about.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  The last mandate letters would have been back.... A cabinet shuffled. It would have been in 2011. I was not working in the Prime Minister's Office, but I have no recollection of whether or not they included foreign interference.