Official Languages committee  When did I meet Mr. Fraser? --last summer-- It was in the summer, when he came to the meeting of agency heads. In fact, it wasn't a face-to-face meeting.

Official Languages committee  We could do that. We worked very closely, Mr. Fraser and I, when I was president of the Council of the Network of Official Languages Champions. Yes, absolutely, we can meet. Moreover, we are going to analyze the results because we ourselves were surprised. We're not pleased with the mark either.

Official Languages committee  Yes, I believe so. I think the commissioner does very useful work that sends very useful messages about how we work.

Official Languages committee  I don't think he can do anything more, no. I think he's doing his job. He's an officer of Parliament who is doing a good job. Perhaps I'd like to go back over what you said about volunteer work. I think that may be misinterpreted. I entirely agree with the act. What I said at the School of Public Service was that we had to go beyond that and go with something a little more fundamental than simply B or C levels, that it had to be more felt.

Official Languages committee  No, the act is right. What I'm saying is that, even with the act, we have to go further personally. It's also a matter of people, individuals, who have to get involved in this linguistic duality. That was my message.

Official Languages committee  No.

Official Languages committee  We honestly haven't had to discuss it with Heritage at any.... We're quite autonomous in the way we administer our act, and this was not subject to discussion. I think it's understood that we need to do that. As I explained earlier, we don't have offices across the country, so this is not something on the radar.

Official Languages committee  Sure.

Official Languages committee  Yes, it's very popular. In fact, I think it's a full class. We could provide you with numbers, but it's popular, and we will continue to offer it. It helps a lot. It supports the delivery of our mandate in both official languages.

Official Languages committee  My answer is yes. I encourage it and I know that my management committee encourages it as well. I have never gone to a meeting where there were no discussions in both languages and without translation. It's a very bilingual department—I admit that I myself am a bit surprised at the results.

Official Languages committee  I'm aware of that difficulty, of course. However, once again, I'm a bit surprised at the results because, since I've been at the head of the organization—and even before that, when Mr. Wilson was there, because I was very close to the subject as well—all employees wrote in the language of their choice.

Official Languages committee  Yes, but as I am an agency head, I don't attend the deputy ministers' breakfast on Wednesday. We have lunch once a month on themes—

Official Languages committee  There haven't been since I've been there. There have been at the meetings of the small agency heads. There have been at that time.

Official Languages committee  Yes, we have bilingual resources and we also have bilingual profiles. I was a bit surprised, and that's why we're going to conduct some slightly more sporadic audits based on the commissioner's methodology. We were surprised by that mark. Our resources are bilingual, and we aren't lacking bilingual resources.

Official Languages committee  In the reference department.