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Transport committee  No, we will be monitoring them, sir.

November 25th, 2013Committee meeting

Gerard McDonald

Transport committee  I'll ask Monsieur Roussel. He can give the detail, but there's a bit of a nuance there in that a certain section of the industry, i.e., those ships that are responsible or answerable to international convention already have SMS, and what we had talked about was moving the system further down to further cover portions of the domestic industry.

November 25th, 2013Committee meeting

Gerard McDonald

Transport committee  Yes. Donald.

November 25th, 2013Committee meeting

Gerard McDonald

Transport committee  Back to the consolidated revenue fund, I believe.

November 25th, 2013Committee meeting

Gerard McDonald

Transport committee  Certainly. Anytime we bring in a regulation, we look for ways to improve it. The concept of administrative monetary penalties is something fairly recently introduced to our various statutes in the transportation industry, and by recent, I mean probably within the last 10 to 15 years.

November 25th, 2013Committee meeting

Gerard McDonald

Transport committee  There are for some of the modes. For others, we're in the process of implementing them.

November 25th, 2013Committee meeting

Gerard McDonald

Transport committee  We'd like, as much as possible, to move to a consistent safety management construct for all our modes. While modes are different and they operate differently, we feel the overall construct of the enforcement regime should be similar from mode to mode.

November 25th, 2013Committee meeting

Gerard McDonald

Transport committee  I'm sorry, I don't have that figure at hand.

November 25th, 2013Committee meeting

Gerard McDonald

Transport committee  I'm afraid, Mr. Chair, I don't have that information.

November 25th, 2013Committee meeting

Gerard McDonald

Transport committee  It's probably in the order of hundreds, I would think. Every entity that is regulated under the system would have to have a safety management system. It's probably in the twenties on the aviation side, thirty-some on the rail side, but between fifty and one hundred.

November 25th, 2013Committee meeting

Gerard McDonald

November 25th, 2013Committee meeting

Gerard McDonald

Transport committee  They would vary. There are certain elements in a safety management system, which my colleagues talked of. We verify that the company has all of those elements, but we don't give them, say, a form to fill out. They have to tell us how it has been designed, and we assess whether it meets the requirements of the regulations.

November 25th, 2013Committee meeting

Gerard McDonald

Transport committee  Through regulation.

November 25th, 2013Committee meeting

Gerard McDonald

Transport committee  Specific to that sector.

November 25th, 2013Committee meeting

Gerard McDonald

Transport committee  Yes. First of all, we would, as we introduce a regulation.... Many companies, out of good management practice, have safety management systems on their own. When we introduce a regulation, we require all operators subject to that regulation to submit to us their safety management plan.

November 25th, 2013Committee meeting

Gerard McDonald