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April 30th, 2013Committee meeting

Terrance Oakey

Transport committee  It means that depending on.... Every bid is somewhat different. There may not be a contractor who has the staff and the resources. So, for whatever reason they bid higher or lower. There's no way to make a blanket statement that every time we compete against a closed shop or another open-shop operator, one of those companies would win.

April 30th, 2013Committee meeting

Terrance Oakey

April 30th, 2013Committee meeting

Terrance Oakey

Transport committee  Not that I'm aware of.

April 30th, 2013Committee meeting

Terrance Oakey

Transport committee  We would never ask the government to favour our members in terms of what you can and cannot do in terms of bidding. All we want is a level playing field. Quite frankly, there are members of ours who operate with the union wing in certain areas because their employees have chosen that.

April 30th, 2013Committee meeting

Terrance Oakey

Transport committee  Can I comment on that?

April 30th, 2013Committee meeting

Terrance Oakey

Transport committee  Yes. I've done a lot of commenting on the Rand formula, and I actually challenge most people who seem to know the Rand formula. I don't think any of them have actually read it. It's clear in the decision, and it was a decision for one union in one specific case to settle a strike.

April 30th, 2013Committee meeting

Terrance Oakey

Transport committee  I was only saying it's a huge strain on municipal budgets.

April 30th, 2013Committee meeting

Terrance Oakey

Transport committee  I'd love to. One of the things you could do as a member of Parliament is say to them that you don't have any control over projects the city and the province fund directly, but that, as their member of Parliament, you will ensure that the funds the federal government transfers will have strings attached to ensure that they get the best value possible, and also that all of your constituents are actually able to work.

April 30th, 2013Committee meeting

Terrance Oakey

Transport committee  I think so. It's one of many areas where municipalities can look for savings. There's a famous quote from, I think it was the chief of police for New York City, who said that he could easily pay for the police officers who are on the street, but he couldn't pay for the other three who are retired.

April 30th, 2013Committee meeting

Terrance Oakey

Transport committee  Yes, I have it.

April 30th, 2013Committee meeting

Terrance Oakey

Transport committee  No, that would go against every one of our founding principles.

April 30th, 2013Committee meeting

Terrance Oakey

Transport committee  Exactly.

April 30th, 2013Committee meeting

Terrance Oakey

Transport committee  Absolutely. There's an extra 30% to 40% that's just left on the table.

April 30th, 2013Committee meeting

Terrance Oakey

Transport committee  It says that there are to be no union-only processes and no sole-source contracts.

April 30th, 2013Committee meeting

Terrance Oakey