Justice committee  I'll ask. Five hundred thousand?

Justice committee  We will find it, Mr. Chair.

Justice committee  Could we take that under advisement, Mr. Chair? We certainly are aware of the transfers back and forth here of resources from grants to contributions and contributions to grants. We will look at the $500,000 discrepancy and we will provide you with an answer.

Justice committee  We will convey that on.

Justice committee  Yes. For criminal legal aid, we have $108.3 million; for court-ordered counsel, $1.65 million; for legal aid related to public security and anti-terrorism measures, $2.0 million; for program operations—the people who help us administer this and their operating costs—$1.63 million.

Justice committee  Given that it's a horizontal item primarily under...this is in support of negotiations. Aboriginal Affairs is paying for the negotiations. We're paying for the legal support. But I don't have those figures for other elements of the horizontal, I'm sorry.

Justice committee  I'll ask Ms. Hendy to start.

Justice committee  We're back into a matter the chair will want to dive into with both feet, which is the process by which main estimates and supplementary estimates are appropriated and the extent to which information is provided. But, as a department for ongoing programming where we have the approval....

Justice committee  I guess I'm not sure what would be included in the cost of the reference, but I will defer to Monsieur Bilodeau, if he knows whether the costs of the.... There would be some costs in terms of Department of Justice counsel time, but that's part of our ongoing operations.

Justice committee  I will kick it off, and some of my colleagues will add more. Supporting families, as the minister had said, is a very important initiative of the federal government in trying to support a holistic approach to family law. Out of that money, about $15 million will be available to provinces to try to support things like mediation programs and family support services.

Justice committee  I can turn it over to one of my colleagues to provide more, but I can say that one of my first jobs in the Department of Justice was administering that program. You got to go to communities that are in some of the most remote, far-flung, and frankly, desperate situations in all of Canada.

Justice committee  Thank you for the question. I think the Teslin Tlingit Council has been receiving funding for years from the aboriginal justice strategy to administer its aboriginal justice program in its community. The objective is to advance negotiations on self-government, but the funding is not directly related to those debates.

Justice committee  I think so, but you should ask the Department of Aboriginal Affairs about the status of the discussions.

Justice committee  I'd be happy to turn directly to questions, and some of my colleagues from the portfolio agencies are here. Last time we were here there was some discussion on questions I was not in a position to answer, so I'm hoping all of my good friends here are able to answer all of the questions you have.

Justice committee  Yes.