Public Safety committee  It's Mr. Shipley.

Public Safety committee  It's Madame Michaud, Mr. Chair.

Public Safety committee  We lost the chair for a moment. He will be reconnected. One of the vice-chairs can take over. Mr. Lloyd, no, actually Ms.—

Public Safety committee  Ms. Michaud, can you take over the role of chair?

Public Safety committee  Mr. Chair, you may request unanimous consent from the committee to go beyond 15 minutes. It's at the discretion of the committee to decide collectively or—

Public Safety committee  Is that question directed to the committee or to me, Mr. Chair?

Public Safety committee  You may, sir, yes, but for the first 15 minutes it's not necessary. Beyond that, you may request it if one of the members has requested unanimous consent.

Public Safety committee  Mr. Chair, we should be able to do so. Yes.

Public Safety committee  It is a dilatory motion, so we need to proceed to a vote. It's a non-amendable and non-debatable motion.

Public Safety committee  Mr. Chair, it looks like there are some issues with the Zoom platform in the building. We are looking into it. We can proceed, if you wish. If there's a problem, we can stop again and check with our technicians.

Public Safety committee  Yes, sir.

Public Safety committee  It is in order. We went back to the motion. The first amendment was voted on and all agreed to it, so we went back to the main motion. We started the debate, and Mr. McKinnon moved a new amendment to the motion. It is in order.

Public Safety committee  Mr. McKinnon had his hand up, so if he wants to speak further.... Otherwise, yes, we need to proceed to a vote.

Public Safety committee  Mr. Chair, we can do a recorded vote, unless there's unanimous consent.

Public Safety committee  If I may? Ms. Michaud, the debate is on the amendment.