Last Post Fund  I declare the motion defeated.

Last Post Fund  The House will now proceed to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion. Call in the members.

Last Post Fund  The House resumed from May 27 consideration of the motion.

Last Post Fund  In my opinion the nays have it. And five or more members having risen: Pursuant to an order made Wednesday, May 22, the division stands deferred until Wednesday, May 29 at the expiry of the time provided for oral questions.

Last Post Fund  Agreed. : No.

Last Post Fund  All those in favour of the motion will please say yea.

Last Post Fund  Yea.

Last Post Fund  The time provided for debate has expired. The question is on the motion. Is it the pleasure of the House to adopt the motion?

Last Post Fund  All those opposed will please say nay.

Last Post Fund  Nay.

Last Post Fund  Mr. Speaker, I am proud to rise today to reaffirm our government's full support for a program that is so important to Canadian veterans and their families. I am also pleased to say that the federal burial fund program is working, that every year it is helping the families of veterans through a profoundly difficult and emotional time in their lives.

Last Post Fund  The House resumed from April 18 consideration of the motion.

Veterans Affairs committee  In a perfect world it should be separate. Not only should the war pensioners' allowance and the Last Post fund be discussed, but the lump-sum award and the issues that are confronting veterans should be discussed. You do have an opportunity to make this right before veterans have to go to court.

Veterans Affairs committee  In talking about this whole issue of veterans managing in their last years, there is the very fact that the Last Post fund has increased the amount payable but at the same time it has failed to improve the $12,000 threshold. When the government says it doesn't include the house or the car—if it indeed did, if those were not exempted—it would seem to me a lot of families would be left with nothing.

Veterans Affairs  Second, the costs of a funeral and burial services have not been met adequately by the government. Some years ago, the assets cut-off to provide monetary help through the Last Post Fund was $24,000. That was reduced by the Liberals. Now it is just over $12,000. That means that 67% of veterans receive no help. This is simply not the way that we, as a country, should be treating our veterans.