Transport committee  This is accountability.

Transport committee  It begs the question, Mr. Bélanger, was it really an audit or was it an expression used by CUPE?

Transport committee  There needs to be accountability, and it would not be protected.

Transport committee  Yes.

Transport committee  Correct, and they're fully protected with the proposed amendments that we have now, if they do that.

Transport committee  If it doesn't work at the first level, they will still be protected at the second level.

Transport committee  They're all similar, and section 20 of the access to information legislation applies, asking that we consult with the third party, who has the opportunity to say if there are proprietary rights here. If there are proprietary rights, yes, those rights are protected. But if not, the information shall be released, and there is jurisprudence from high-level courts stating it has to be released.

Transport committee  Commercial interests, a special patent the company may have on their products, or things like that.

Transport committee  No, that's not protected.

Transport committee  I don't know the context in which Mr. Ranger made that statement. I would have to know the context. However, I can tell you that, since there has been access to information in the civil aviation world, when we receive an access to information request for audits, those requests are handled directly by the access to information coordinator.

Transport committee  No. According to the Access to Information Act, we tell you what must be made public in response to a request. There have been interpretations by the courts and there is a very clear body of case law on the subject. Unless the information is likely to cause serious commercial harm because property rights are at issue, the information must be made accessible.

Transport committee  Absolutely.

Transport committee  There have been a number. The thing is to know which one it is. We were in good faith. Mr. Preuss asked him to tell him the date so that he could give him what he was requesting. The documents have to be put together. The key is to get the date.

Transport committee  I'll let Mr. Preuss answer.

Transport committee  As soon as we have the exact date and the details of when the audit occurred and the carrier, we can ask our people in access to information to prepare the package. I remember the last time we left the committee on this. Give us the date and we will--