Environment committee  The way the trust fund mechanism works is that when the trust fund is set up, it is out of the hands of the Government of Canada and is drawn down by the provinces. That is essentially a private matter between the individual jurisdiction and the manager, the trustee of the fund.

Environment committee  The European carbon market is based on hard caps. But the government's plan is calculated on the basis of intensity and translates into what will be legally mandated absolute reductions.

Environment committee  Not off the top of my head, Mr. Chair, but we will be here next week to discuss supplementary estimates. We could provide—

Environment committee  I would want to check that.

Environment committee  I'm Ian Shugart, the associate deputy minister.