Industry committee   trepidation you folks have within the AI space or within that technology. Eleanor and Marie, I'll start off with you. Is the impact of AI greater on the copyright side or the AI side, in terms of generative AI, where you may not need the individuals? I want to get that clarification

Industry committee  Can I just say, without casting aspersions on anyone, that this is an impossible game of three-card monte for stakeholders? The bill before Parliament is Bill C-27. There is a copyright review going on. If we don't comment on AI and its interaction with copyright during Bill C

Industry committee   the perverse logic. The same entities that are busy mining copyrighted works to create something new want to disregard the copyright on the input but then seek the protections of copyright on the output. I want to point out that—just to get it on the record—humans are the creative drivers

Industry committee  I think there's still some work to do here. Just to finish my comment from earlier, I think it has been echoed that at the intersection of the two is that copyright is a framework for ensuring compensation and ensuring the application of moral rights and so on. In the context

Industry committee  We were involved in the consultation on copyright in the era of generative artificial intelligence. However, like our European counterparts, we think that copyright legislation must be reviewed. We also think that the AI framework legislation should include provisions

Industry committee  As part of the consultation on copyright in the era of generative artificial intelligence, we also submitted a brief on behalf of all members of our coalition. As Ms. Hénault just mentioned, we believe that issues can be resolved in the Copyright Act. However, we're seeking very

Bill C-374 An Act to amend the Copyright Act (Crown copyright)

R.S., c. C-42 Copyright Act 1 Section 12 of the Copyright Act is replaced by the following: No copyright — His Majesty 12 Without prejudice to any rights or privileges of the Crown, no copyright subsists in any work that is, or has been, prepared or published by or under

Industry committee  Yes. Ultimately, we are copyright stakeholders, as we have said many times today. The Copyright Act has a section on this. It is an important opportunity to review and make sure that we are up to international norms, but it is by no means a silver bullet to this problem. Like

Industry committee  Thank you, Mr. Chair. My first intervention is the challenge of what we do next, because what I think you have demonstrated today is that it's like the argument that we're going to consult you on Bill C-27, and we will fix it sometime on copyright, and we will fix it somehow

Industry committee   to allow for AI not to respect copyright laws, then it will have the highest impact on us. That's something you could fix today in Bill C-27 by just saying that AI has to pay for the use of copyright material.

Industry committee  Copyright law applies, but they're not paying for that. They're obviously building their large language models on the work of artists, writers, performers, musicians—artists of any kind—but you haven't been paid, and they're making money off what you're doing. Is what you're

Industry committee  There are some in the European Union, unfortunately. When I speak with my counterparts from the European coalitions, they warn Canada not to make the same mistake they did. It comes with many more complex issues. Our legislative system around copyright is a system based

Industry committee  The answer for us is yes. We took part in the consultation. Music Canada shared the position that, of course, the ingestion of music relates to copyright and, of course, the use of AI relates to copyright and that none of these frameworks will work without that being the case.

Industry committee  Thank you. For other witnesses who want to contribute to that, I think what we're talking about, then, is sourcing data. It seems, from all testimony, that everyone is in agreement that we want to see that. Now, the question is whether that's in the Copyright Act, with other

Industry committee  . Specifically, we believe that the Copyright Act is fundamentally biased against performers by not ascribing a moral right to their work. We urge this committee to take action, either through this bill or with haste elsewhere, to protect Canadian performers. We understand that the upcoming