Industry committee  Okay. My next question is directed at both Ms. Kelly and Mr. Forget. In terms of intellectual property, privacy issues and creative control, how can legislation outside of the Copyright Act help in terms of generative AI bad actors?

Industry committee  I think it's going to be a lot of threading together of different things. Copyright is key. You are hearing us say that as actors. I think you need to have protection on the data you're looking at in Bill C-27. I think it's very important for us to look at how it's scraped

Industry committee  -Napster, I pay to use it for my personal use or for that particular thing within the company. If a university wants to photocopy part of a textbook, it has to pay for copyright because it is using that for commercial purposes. Is that right? It is paying for that right. Have any

Industry committee  First of all, actors need to be given moral rights in the Copyright Act. We do not have that. Second, we need to be able to give consent if they want to use our image. We need to have control over the way it's utilized, and we should be compensated for it. All of those need

Industry committee   for compensation, their data suppliers must also be compensated. That's why a licensing market is developing. There are agencies that specialize in licensing for text searches and copyright-free own data.

Industry committee  It's a product, first of all, and that product, created by a machine, can be charged with forgery. If a work is recognized as protected and hasn't been authorized for use, that poses a problem for the user. When you buy and read books that inspire you, copyright makes

Industry committee  Thank you for that very good question. Models currently aren't allowed to use any of that free of charge or without obtaining consent. We're simply asking that this continue to be the case and that no exception be added to the Copyright Act that would enable text or data

Industry committee  Yes, we know there's an intersection here, obviously. I think, Ms. Desrochers, you made a very good comment about how the two work together and how more requirements for transparency within Bill C-27 would actually help copyright to apply to the creative industries. Most

Industry committee   one day be in a position where those things can be licensed, but when those things are stolen, basically, the information and the data needed in order to create that is stripped from the Internet and copyright is infringed. All artists who are reproduced in that way have had

Industry committee  Yes, absolutely. The only way copyright works is if we know what's in it. The only way we can know what's in it is if it's made broadly and widely available. As I said in my opening statement, even if that's a really big spreadsheet, that shouldn't concern anyone.

Industry committee   not enough and request that data be both retained and made available to the public. Second, to make the Copyright Act more effective, we request that this be clearly stated in Bill C-27 in order to clarify certain obligations of transparency.

Industry committee  . There's even the Copyright Act on issues of creator rights. The use of material in the context of AI development that impacts creator rights can be dealt with through the Copyright Act as well. There are existing statutes. We advocated previously for a sectoral approach to AI

Industry committee  With regard to deepfakes, similar to my colleague from AWS, we see an opportunity to either make adjustments to the Criminal Code or think about opportunities to address that concern in the upcoming online harms legislation. With regard to copyright, from our perspective

Industry committee   are local. That makes it urgent for Canada to pass a regulation such as this one, a regulation that protects its citizens while it fosters industry. On the Copyright Act, it's a challenging question. As Professor Bengio pointed out a bit earlier, AI is not just one technology

Parliament of Canada Act   have brought numerous benefits to artists around the world and yet, at the same time, have put their craft and the ownership of their own ideas and work at risk. AI tools can create art using people's thoughts and ideas, and this can lead to infringements on copyrights of artistic