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Finance committee  We actually have prepared a little graphic on double-dipping that we could circulate and speak to. It is a fairly complex notion, and there's no better person in the country than Wayne, from a practitioner's point of view, to walk through that. So with the indulgence—

May 8th, 2007Committee meeting

Brian McCauley

Finance committee  I was going to ask the chair—we had spoken to the clerk—if we could provide this.

May 8th, 2007Committee meeting

Brian McCauley

May 8th, 2007Committee meeting

Brian McCauley

Finance committee  We'll wait until the document comes around, because we were speaking of this, actually, last night around 9:30 when we were going through some of the papers for today. We thought it would be helpful.

May 8th, 2007Committee meeting

Brian McCauley

Finance committee  That's it. I would also observe that this is no comment or observation on the Minister of Finance's proposals. It's our depiction of what we have seen in terms of what we would characterize as double-dipping from an administrator's point of view.

May 8th, 2007Committee meeting

Brian McCauley

Finance committee  No, traditionally as an agency we don't give revenue estimates, particularly on items like that. That's the responsibility of the Department of Finance. The Auditor General is obviously comfortable with how she came up with that number, and maybe it would be a good idea to chat w

May 8th, 2007Committee meeting

Brian McCauley

Finance committee  We know this is a problem and it worries us. But we do not calculate the figures like an objective or as an estimate.

May 8th, 2007Committee meeting

Brian McCauley

Finance committee  We would say neither yes or no. We accept them as being a reasonable effort on their part to come up with the calculation, just as Finance and a number of independent papers do. There are enough people making those estimates. We know it's an issue and we attack it from an adminis

May 8th, 2007Committee meeting

Brian McCauley

Finance committee  No, we typically do it the other way round. For example, we know roughly what the productivity of an audit effort is, or a particular application of a capacity from a tool or an instrument. We say to Finance, with this much effort we typically can generate these certain amounts,

May 8th, 2007Committee meeting

Brian McCauley

Finance committee  That's a very good question, and it allows us to maybe make a point, which I think John mentioned in the beginning. As the Revenue Agency, we are extremely careful that we do not comment on tax policy or legislative changes. There's always a very clean dividing line between the r

May 8th, 2007Committee meeting

Brian McCauley

Finance committee  We had an opportunity to signal to Finance that if they asked us to administer this particular change, we certainly could do so. I would ask maybe John or Wayne to comment. I don't think it makes anything any more or less difficult for us at the end of the day. As we've descri

May 8th, 2007Committee meeting

Brian McCauley

Finance committee  The fall, I guess.

May 8th, 2007Committee meeting

Brian McCauley

Finance committee  Maybe Wayne can answer that. I can offer one short update to the member. One provision in the current budget is to provide an additional $20 million on an annual basis to reinvest in and to reinvigorate the centres of expertise. That certainly is a capacity boost that we're ver

May 8th, 2007Committee meeting

Brian McCauley

Finance committee  Yes. I think $30 million a year, if I remember correctly, was the capacity added.

May 8th, 2007Committee meeting

Brian McCauley

Finance committee  I'll just make a brief comment, Mr. Chair, before turning it over to Wayne. I think a number of the observations you made relate probably more to tax policy than to tax administration. That being said, in all fairness, the agency does take this issue very seriously. The governm

May 8th, 2007Committee meeting

Brian McCauley