Canadian Heritage committee  Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It's our pleasure to be here. REAL Women has been involved with the court challenges problem, or I would say uninvolved, because we have been excluded totally from it. We have tried for years to get some sort of funding and some sort of recognition. Beca

Canadian Heritage committee  Yes, thank you, Mr. Chairman. But you have a conflict of interest. For example, the current executive director of the National Association of Women and the Law is a former executive director of the court challenges program. They're all intertwined and interlocked, administering

Canadian Heritage committee  It's a matter of how it's interpreted, indeed, yes. Many of the interpretations, because of the court challenges program, have given a wrong interpretation.

Canadian Heritage committee  Absolutely not. It's not fair. You can't make it fair.

Canadian Heritage committee  No. The concept is wrong because you can't fund one side of a constitutional issue or one side of a moral value. The concept is totally impractical, and built into it inherently...it's discriminatory.

Canadian Heritage committee  Because we wanted to be on an equal playing field with LEAF, which has all the money, or with the homosexual groups. We had to get our voice heard. How else are we going to get—

Canadian Heritage committee  No, we did not. We thought if they're going to fund one side, they should fund our side. We didn't think it was fair at all, but we wanted to show, by our application, that this was a discriminatory organization. Certainly, the documentation and all the letters we had back, which

Canadian Heritage committee  It depends on how it's interpreted, obviously, and you only get one side arguing for it—

Canadian Heritage committee  It can't be answered. Are you still beating your husband? It's the same kind of question.

Canadian Heritage committee  I believe it depends on how it's interpreted. That's my only response. I can't say it's perfect, because it depends on how they interpret the very vague words.

Canadian Heritage committee  It cannot.

Canadian Heritage committee  Do I believe it has been what?

Canadian Heritage committee  No, not at all. We've been very broad, and we're very inclusive. It's the radical feminists and the homosexuals who are being very exclusive. We've been just absolutely the opposite. We want to expand rights to families. We want to expand them for children. We want to expand righ

Canadian Heritage committee  And by feminists.

Canadian Heritage committee  Yes, because the status of women committee funds, again, only an ideology that clearly and unequivocally does not represent women, because many of us women are not at all suffering discrimination. Some are. But they are funding an ideology, and that should be eliminated because i