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Transport committee  Thank you very much for the opportunity to speak. My name is Tim Sanford. I'm with the Compression Technology Corporation. We're based in the Toronto area. We're the exclusive distributor of the BRC FuelMaker compressor line across Canada. We are the home refueling people that y

May 17th, 2012Committee meeting

Tim Sanford

Transport committee  Just to go back to that earlier point on how many kilometres you would have to drive to make this worthwhile economically, you're looking at roughly 35,000 kilometres per year. So yes, it is a more heavily used vehicle. I've been in this industry 22 years now, and this is the

May 17th, 2012Committee meeting

Tim Sanford

Transport committee  It's an excellent point, and we've been addressing that with a couple of the gas utilities, and potentially approaching Chrysler, for example, GM or Ford—the OEMs—on that specific topic. It's funny, I go back to our success in the forklift market. We have roughly 3,000 or 4,000

May 17th, 2012Committee meeting

Tim Sanford

Transport committee  I agree fully with that. I previously experienced this with a fuelmaker myself, in California, when I was working with Honda dealers. We had a program in place through the U.S. in some specific states, California being one, where the actual Honda dealer would provide the turnkey

May 17th, 2012Committee meeting

Tim Sanford

Transport committee  It's in around the 20 litres.

May 17th, 2012Committee meeting

Tim Sanford

Transport committee  It was very successful. However, there were some incentives, so I can't tell you if it was just related to the turnkey package or whether it was incentive-related. I'm sure the two came together.

May 17th, 2012Committee meeting

Tim Sanford

Transport committee  Currently you would have to purchase it. We are working on a financing package.

May 17th, 2012Committee meeting

Tim Sanford

Transport committee  I'd have to check with Enbridge, because a lot of it has been done through Enbridge Gas, but you're probably looking at around the 400 to 500 mark, as an assumption.

May 17th, 2012Committee meeting

Tim Sanford

Transport committee  That's a good question. It's classified as an appliance, so—

May 17th, 2012Committee meeting

Tim Sanford

Transport committee  That's correct.

May 17th, 2012Committee meeting

Tim Sanford

Transport committee  The fill unit itself, when it launches, is going to be in the $5,000 range.

May 17th, 2012Committee meeting

Tim Sanford

May 17th, 2012Committee meeting

Tim Sanford

Transport committee  Exactly. It requires the same CSA approval, and it's very safe. You mentioned London. We have all the hockey arenas in the city of London operating their ice resurfacers on natural gas, so the ice resurfacers all refuel right in the ice resurfacer room at the arena with an indo

May 17th, 2012Committee meeting

Tim Sanford

Transport committee  That's an excellent point. That's what spurred the city to convert to natural gas. It was gasoline-powered.

May 17th, 2012Committee meeting

Tim Sanford

Transport committee  I believe in the taxicab market a lot of it had to do with the lower cost on the actual conversion of the vehicles themselves. Propane was a little bit lower in cost. The range of propane was probably a bit of an advantage for the vehicles. Propane is a little bit more costly th

May 17th, 2012Committee meeting

Tim Sanford