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Agriculture committee  Thanks very much for the opportunity. First, I will provide a little background on ITAC, the Inland Terminal Association of Canada. There was a time when the grain handling system of western Canada was dominated by farmer-owned cooperatives. Those days are long past but there ar

December 6th, 2012Committee meeting

Kevin Hursh

Agriculture committee  Yes, and the best examples would be some livestock pelleting plants, and some specialty crop processing and cleaning operations. The ethanol plant, especially the one at North West Terminal Ltd. at Unity, does very well. It's not a large ethanol plant, but it provides ethanol an

December 6th, 2012Committee meeting

Kevin Hursh

Agriculture committee  I don't expect a great increase in malting production with barley or a great increase in flour milling. I think many of the processors would prefer to deal in an open market and that might slightly lever in favour of more operations. However, I don't think the Canadian Wheat Bo

December 6th, 2012Committee meeting

Kevin Hursh

Agriculture committee  Certainly. The system has worked reasonably well this fall, but this fall has been a little different. We had a very good harvest season, so we have a fairly narrow grade. We don't have this wide proliferation of grades and a bunch of grain that's damp. That helps the system. We

December 6th, 2012Committee meeting

Kevin Hursh

Agriculture committee  It's my understanding from the news I've seen that the government is ready to introduce its rail service legislation, and that we will get a first chance to see it by the middle of this month. You're in Ottawa, and I am not. I'm sure you have much better information than I do.

December 6th, 2012Committee meeting

Kevin Hursh

Agriculture committee  I guess it will be interesting to see how it rolls out and whether each individual shipper has to do their own negotiation, or whether groups of shippers or a whole industry will be able to use some sort of template agreement to come to some resolution when dealing with the railw

December 6th, 2012Committee meeting

Kevin Hursh

Agriculture committee  Correct. That's the problem. The railways basically walked away from the table in the Dinning process, saying that they were not going to play this game, that they were not going to voluntarily enter into agreements with shippers. That's why the hammer was legislation saying that

December 6th, 2012Committee meeting

Kevin Hursh

Agriculture committee  For sure, there has to be some level of enforcement. The difficulty will be to make it timely and accessible so that it doesn't take six months or a year and a great deal of cost to try to get to the point at which there's a resolution.

December 6th, 2012Committee meeting

Kevin Hursh

Agriculture committee  I would, in principle. I'm not quite sure what you're getting at there.

December 6th, 2012Committee meeting

Kevin Hursh

Agriculture committee  I think level-of-service agreements are really what we're after.

December 6th, 2012Committee meeting

Kevin Hursh

Agriculture committee  Generally, I'm not sure it matters whether it's a government-owned car or a railway-owned car. You do hear complaints about those not being in good repair. I don't have any statistics or anything quantitative to really put an edge on that at all.

December 6th, 2012Committee meeting

Kevin Hursh

Agriculture committee  The grain research laboratory is a real gem that the Canadian Grain Commission has. It does a lot of great work and puts quality parameters around each year's crop. For instance, if that were moved from the Canadian Grain Commission to Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada, and consid

December 6th, 2012Committee meeting

Kevin Hursh

Agriculture committee  I guess the position is that mandatory outward inspection should be removed. The Canadian Grain Commission should and could still have an accreditation role for any third-party inspections. If you have a country, let's say Brazil, and they decide that this customer in Brazil wa

December 6th, 2012Committee meeting

Kevin Hursh

Agriculture committee  ITAC members are handlers of Canadian Wheat Board grains, in fact, disproportionately so, because for a private terminal without international connections handling Canadian Wheat Board grains—and the Canadian Wheat Board was doing the marketing—you just get paid for handling. It

December 6th, 2012Committee meeting

Kevin Hursh

Agriculture committee  It's about communication and coordination. The railways claim that they're very modern and know where everything is happening. They don't seem to communicate when they have a problem. They don't seem to be able to coordinate things. A lot of it has to do with efficiency and getti

December 6th, 2012Committee meeting

Kevin Hursh