Justice committee  There is no change in policy regarding the penalty which applies under the law to young teenagers. For those cases where the Crown may ask for an adult penalty, the same policy would apply. In this respect, the Bill does not change anything. If the individual has a criminal rec

Justice committee  To which clause are you referring?

Justice committee  The preamble at the very beginning of the bill is not a clause as such. Clause 1 of the bill amends section 84 of the Criminal Code, not section 85, and has many purposes. First of all, clause 1 which proposes to amend subsection 84(5) list those offences for which the penalties

Justice committee  The government amendment proposed to clause 1 essentially would give effect to amendments that are proposed for other clauses. It may be wise for the committee to consider standing down clause 1 until other amendments related to part III of the Criminal Code in the bill are dealt

Justice committee  Clause 1 could be stood down and brought back after subsequent clauses are dealt with.

Justice committee  Yes. Some of the same terms are used at the beginning of section 95. This provision contains nothing new. Some terminology has been dropped to update the act, but no new offence is created. It's simply a matter of making a substantive change, with a view to increasing minimum pen

Justice committee  Yes. Clause 9 of the bill seeks to create the two new offences, the first being “break and enter to steal a firearm”, the second being “robbery to steal a firearm”. That clause has not been voted on yet, clause 9, to create the two new offences. Clause 15 here references those t

Justice committee  Yes, under the new offences which would be created.

Justice committee  Sorry, but clauses 26, 27, 29, and 30 are all consequential amendments in order to change references to sections that were amended by clauses 18 and 29 of the bill or that have already been voted on. So the committee could consider voting on that bulk of clauses together as a who

Justice committee  Rather, the vote on clauses 18 and 19 will apply to clause 26.

Justice committee  Yes, I realize that. I was trying to indicate that as a result of the amendments not having passed for those clauses, these remaining clauses are obsolete, so to speak, or now do not flow from—

Justice committee  The motion to amend clause 2 of the bill seeks to remove the third-level minimum penalty of five years that would apply on a third or subsequent offence. It also brings up proposed paragraph 2(2)(c), which is currently placed elsewhere in the existing Criminal Code provision, so

Justice committee  Clause 2 deals with the offence of using a firearm while committing an indictable offence. It does not deal with the same thing as clause 9, which creates the two new offences under this bill—robbery to steal a firearm and breaking and entering to steal a firearm. Clauses 2 and 9

Justice committee  Clause 15 of the bill—

Justice committee  That is correct. We're adding two new referrals to the two new offences created under the bill, in other words breaking and entering to steal a firearm and robbery to steal a firearm. Clause 15 is not an offence as such. For all practical purposes, this is a consequential amendme