Industry committee  Sure, we can work through the portfolio and get back to you. There are always a lot of puts and takes, depending on things coming out of the economic action plan and activities that were sunsetted and so forth, but that's factual information that we can compare.

Industry committee  We're the allocators, not the builders.

Industry committee  To be perfectly honest, I have to tell you that I don't know. That comes under the National Research Council Canada. So I will ask them how they arrived at that reduction…

Industry committee  …that do not necessarily make money.

Industry committee  My colleague Ms. Gillis tells me that it is not a reduction, it is rather an anticipated projection of repayments. This is a statutory program. When banks send us invoices, we pay them.

Industry committee  You can take it off your list of things to talk to Mr. Bernier about.

Industry committee  I do not know what study you are referring to. If you or your colleagues could…

Industry committee  I am not familiar with it, but I will find out about it.

Industry committee  Okay. The technology cluster program is related to the institutes. As I said, about 15 institutes target specific sectors. I'll tell you a bit more about it because these clusters are up for renewal this year. That's what we're working on. That's why I said I didn't think there

Industry committee  The Jenkins report more or less recommended taking an axe to the National Research Council Canada and totally reorganizing its activities. Minister Goodyear has said that he prefers evolution to revolution when it comes to the NRC. However, and I think that this is what Mr. McDo

Industry committee  Could you please tell me what page the information you're referring to is on? There were no budget cuts in this respect last year. That's why I'm trying to find this information.

Industry committee  Broadband Canada was launched during the government's economic action plan, and we carried over because some projects ran longer. However, it was a time-defined initiative, not an ongoing program.

Industry committee  I would make two other quick points. One is that allocation of resources is not something that falls within the purview of officials. You, I believe, made a suggestion to the minister, which I assume he noted and will then address with the people who are above my pay grade. Sec

Industry committee  Yes. Helen, why don't you describe what's in our document out for consultation.

Industry committee  First I'll address the cause. I remember the last time I was here you asked me about consumer affairs, and I told you that we were not cutting anything, which remains the correct answer. Six months ago the government established something called Shared Services Canada, with a v