Citizenship and Immigration committee  I have one brief comment on the issue of church involvement. We've had about ten people or families approach us in the last few years about sanctuary, and in the other nine cases we found other avenues for them to deal with their situations.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Mr. Mia, as I said earlier, is an illiterate cook. He has four children, and all five of them are working full time. All four children are going to school, in two cases full time. Last month they bought a house. So it's not simply the refugee, but it's the family. As soon as one

Citizenship and Immigration committee  I want to tie this back to the offer that Minister Sgro made a couple of years ago. There is a danger that the churches would become a quasi-official part of the process, and that's the last thing we want. We do this reluctantly, and that should be clear.

Citizenship and Immigration committee  Thank you. My name is Philip Nagy. I'm representing the First Unitarian Congregation of Ottawa. Ottawa First Unitarian fully supports the points made in the previous briefs. The case of Samsu Mia, who lived in sanctuary at First Unitarian for 18 months, illustrates some of the