Canadian Heritage committee  I don't have any right now.

Canadian Heritage committee  No. Which one are you referring to?

Canadian Heritage committee  I'd like to say two things. First, the expert panel that doles out the money is appointed. The board has absolutely no say in how that money is disbursed. There is no overlap. I never had anything to say in all the years I was on the program about what cases were going to be fund

Canadian Heritage committee  I think your idea is interesting, but it would be quite challenging in this country to find a panel of perhaps ex-judges who were representative. We'd need to find former aboriginal judges, former judges of colour, women judges, and judges with disabilities who have the necessary

Canadian Heritage committee  As I said, I'm no longer on the board and I don't speak for the program. But we just went through a Heritage Canada review of the program, which made some suggestions for improvements that we quite happily initiated. I was quite comfortable with how the program came through the r

Canadian Heritage committee  No, they're not.

Canadian Heritage committee  No, they're not.

Canadian Heritage committee  I certainly agree with you that if you eliminate the program.... We've had a devastating parallel cut in legal aid in this country, as well. So it's kind of like a double whammy. The difference, I think, between Canada and the United States is that litigation does proceed in th

Canadian Heritage committee  Yes, it will be worse here because there isn't even the fallback of donor foundations that might give money for these kinds of things. It's just a very different tradition in this country. When you eliminate the access to justice through public funding here, it leaves a far bigge

Canadian Heritage committee  That's correct.

Canadian Heritage committee  The CCP is structured such that the people who have positions on the board are the membership. For instance, there's an equality side and a language side—

Canadian Heritage committee  Yes.

Canadian Heritage committee  We have a democratic government. We believe in democracy, but our democracy is a democracy that includes majority rule with protection for minority rights. The role of the court is the protection of minority rights within majority rule. That's the court's role; that's what the Co

Canadian Heritage committee  Absolutely.

Canadian Heritage committee  Oh, sorry.