International Trade committee  I have not had the pleasure of being retained by the Canadian government, so I didn't share in those numbers. I would reiterate my point that, particularly in respect of the cost of administration, the public service should have funds sufficient to properly enforce this legislation, so that the industry can benefit from it.

International Trade committee  Inasmuch as this legislation is not law but is already regulating trade in software lumber, I would suspect it could be at any time.

International Trade committee  Yes.

International Trade committee  It's not a concern insofar as it's just a statement of fact. When there's a limit on the volume of product that can be either imported or exported, subject to some form of penalty or taxation or absolute volume, it creates an additional value in the ability to actually do the exportation or the importation.

International Trade committee  Over and above the value of the lumber product.

International Trade committee  Generally, they've been considered to be harmful.

International Trade committee  A definition of the phrase “in transit”.

International Trade committee  Well, we'll leave it to the people who help you put those definitions together to say whether it's easy or not. But a proper definition that provides clarity could absolutely be prepared.

International Trade committee  Advertently or inadvertently.

International Trade committee  By the way, we are preparing a French-language version of my notes, so they will be provided to the committee.

International Trade committee  Clause 5 establishes the time at which a softwood lumber product is considered exported. It says it's at the time when the product was last loaded aboard a conveyance for export. That time will vary depending on how the business is being done, obviously. What's missing is what actually constitutes the act of exporting, which is required in order for you to have a sense of when you are loading for export.

International Trade committee  It could be loaded on an interim vessel that would be taken to the port, for example, on a through bill of lading. It has already potentially begun its exportation at that point. Or does the legislation intend to capture the moment when the goods move from the intermediate transportation mode to the boat--if it's going by boat?

International Trade committee  Well, it could, if it were defined that way. For example, the Customs Act contemplates that an importer and owner will be two different people. Likewise, an exporter and owner could be two different people. There is an exporter who may be the exporter of record, who's responsible for ensuring that there's been an export declaration made to Customs.

International Trade committee  I think I've covered in detail the areas that require more precision.

International Trade committee  No.