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Transport committee  I understand you, Mr. Laframboise. However, I'm afraid that amendment BQ-19 causes confusion. It runs a bit parallel to the federal government's Public Servants Disclosure Protection Act. Section 5.392 already contains something different. Why not keep that together with section

June 11th, 2007Committee meeting

Franz Reinhardt

Transport committee  Earlier I told you that you wanted something stronger. I told you that wouldn't be a problem for us. However, if you're asking me if such a situation can actually occur, my answer is that I don't think so because people who work for a holder of a commercial aeronautical certifica

June 11th, 2007Committee meeting

Franz Reinhardt

Transport committee  In the case of a pilot who transports his boss, the company has a safety management system. He's actually part of the group of 604 that have a safety management system.

June 11th, 2007Committee meeting

Franz Reinhardt

Transport committee  No. Provided that it's related to aeronautics, Mr. Volpe, you're right; they will all be governed by an SMS. However, I don't want to mislead you. If in a company like a food caterer, like Cara, for instance, an employee decides to report, those guys are not covered by an SMS.

June 11th, 2007Committee meeting

Franz Reinhardt

Transport committee  If you look at the English side, only where it says “including any measures”, without making reference to an employee, this is very clear.

June 11th, 2007Committee meeting

Franz Reinhardt

Transport committee  In the English version, it states: “Information reported under the program referred to in...may not be used against” the person who reported it in any legal, disciplinary or other proceedings, including measures regarding the employment. So that would be an add-on to this.

June 11th, 2007Committee meeting

Franz Reinhardt

Transport committee  At first, we thought it was well drafted.

June 11th, 2007Committee meeting

Franz Reinhardt

Transport committee  This is becoming difficult, Mr. Bélanger. We tried to draft this act the best way possible. We thought that the act offered that protection.

June 11th, 2007Committee meeting

Franz Reinhardt

Transport committee  Mr. Laframboise, it would surprise me very much if employees who are working to become holders of an aeronautical certificate were not covered by a safety management system. Our intention—we're currently doing it by regulation—is to cover all the fields. Even small commercial ope

June 11th, 2007Committee meeting

Franz Reinhardt

Transport committee  The two are compatible, Mr. Bélanger. If you read the section carefully, you will see that, if you do things voluntarily, you cannot avail yourself of the system. If there already is a safety management system, you must first report to it before using the system. These requireme

June 11th, 2007Committee meeting

Franz Reinhardt

Transport committee  With the amendment to subsection (4), the employer cannot institute proceedings against the employee.

June 11th, 2007Committee meeting

Franz Reinhardt

Transport committee  Mr. Julian, section 5.392 is clear. It concerns an offence for which a person may be punished on summary conviction against the employer, and liable to a fine of up to $1 million.

June 11th, 2007Committee meeting

Franz Reinhardt

Transport committee  Any breach of any provision of Part I of the Aeronautics Act may result in proceedings, under the part on summary proceedings, and a fie of up to $1 million. That information appears in section 7.3.

June 11th, 2007Committee meeting

Franz Reinhardt

Transport committee  It's difficult to review the whole thing on the spur of the moment. It seemed to me there was no need for that specific protection under the universal, voluntary, non-punitive reporting. But Mr. Bélanger's suggestion seems to be a bit redundant. It's clear to me that it's the e

June 11th, 2007Committee meeting

Franz Reinhardt

Transport committee  That's what I was saying earlier.

June 11th, 2007Committee meeting

Franz Reinhardt