Bill C-30 (39th Parliament, 1st Session) committee  First, as to the retirement of an older plant, I'm really referring to thermal generating plants as well, particularly coal-fired plants. Probably around 20% of that stock would be available for retirement around the 2020 period. It does vary across Canada. It depends on the vint

Bill C-30 (39th Parliament, 1st Session) committee  We use the base year 2003.

Bill C-30 (39th Parliament, 1st Session) committee  Yes, as an industry we've been looking at the short- and mid-term targets. The short-term target, starting around 2010, would be 5%. It would run to 10% by 2020, and then drop dramatically, because that's when our industry capital stock turnover would really begin to take place.

Bill C-30 (39th Parliament, 1st Session) committee  One thing I should explain about a coal-fired generating plant is that over its life it's a real challenge to maintain the actual efficiency of the plant from when it was built, from its design criteria, so you're continuing to do that anyway. We're not basing the CO2 cost on any

Bill C-30 (39th Parliament, 1st Session) committee  Certainly, the CEA, the Canadian Electricity Association, would have all that broken down.

Bill C-30 (39th Parliament, 1st Session) committee  We do, yes, for ourselves. Yes, we do.

Bill C-30 (39th Parliament, 1st Session) committee  We could make that available, yes.

Bill C-30 (39th Parliament, 1st Session) committee  The way we reduce CO2 emissions right now is purely through offsets.

Bill C-30 (39th Parliament, 1st Session) committee  No, actually it is not. In the province of Alberta, we have a regulation on our Genesee 3 unit that requires us to go beyond purely the technological improvements we made by building the supercritical unit. We do that through acquiring offsets from various participants. There i

Bill C-30 (39th Parliament, 1st Session) committee  There's quite a wide range. I have to hesitate in mentioning a number, because that's proprietary. We have agreements with various companies that sequester carbon or destroy some of the other six.... There are six GHGs, for example.

Bill C-30 (39th Parliament, 1st Session) committee  Well, if I mention it, then I will; that's the problem.

Bill C-30 (39th Parliament, 1st Session) committee  Thank you, Mr. Chairman and honourable committee members. EPCOR commends the efforts of this committee to develop effective environmental legislation addressing greenhouse gases and other emissions. It's clear that the results of your efforts here will have great significance fo