Justice committee  Over the last several years closer relationships have been built between child care services, children's aid, and law enforcement. But there has not always been that mandatory reporting that if one reports to one, they have to tell the other. And I think that's still fairly consi

Justice committee  Yes, may I just quickly respond? Regarding the concept of a presumption, I believe a similar concept was debated some years ago that would potentially allow for the examining of the nature of the relationship and thus call the nature into examination, potentially bringing the vi

Justice committee  I simply believe that a trier of fact will ultimately be responsible for examining the nature of a relationship. Based on all the extenuating circumstances that surround the exploitation issue, it will be a very long and lengthy process and very frustrating for all involved.

Justice committee  Yes, if there were a presumption.

Justice committee  Absolutely.

Justice committee  The truth is, no, it is what it is. Officers do their best. At the same time, crown attorneys will go forward with cases that they think result in conviction and result in the greater good, and these are the kinds of cases that just don't seem to move forward.

Justice committee  I think you've made an interesting observation. Certainly, within different cultures and different lifestyles, and certainly with new immigrants, it raises several new issues and challenges. However, I think if the line is drawn definitively that this is not legal, it will at lea

Justice committee  I think so. Let me first say that you're right. Kids are kids, and some children are going to make decisions in various life situations and potentially make mistakes. This bill will stop, however, those who will take advantage of those situations in which children may wish to g

Justice committee  If I might, at the speed of light is the short answer, at the speed that the Internet allows. The one thing I have learned about the criminal element and those who would use computers and the Internet to facilitate their crimes is that they use it very well. There is a tremendo

Justice committee  From the investigative standpoint of a front-line officer, it is heartbreaking to see the results of some of the life decisions that have been made by children of 14 and 15 years old because they were allowed to. In my opinion, children are often simply not capable of or able to

Justice committee  No is the short answer. Again, it's so new that the numbers would probably be less than, or just around, 100 cases in Canada that officers might have been involved in, cases of active Internet luring. Typically they're the ones we read about, or they're in the media. Again, it ha

Justice committee  I know there have been some international ones, which are, again, well publicized. The majority would be domestic. Certainly in the United States, where these types of cases have been investigated more thoroughly and with more experience than us for the last several years, they'r

Justice committee  Mr. Chair, the problem with the Internet and it being relatively new technology, coupled with the fact that children of very tender years, again, do not generally report and aren't likely to follow through on charges for a number of reasons.... The short answer is there are no sp

Justice committee  Again, the technology being so new, the level of law enforcement that is capable of dealing with it, the number of officers and actually cities and law enforcement agencies in Canada that are trained to deal with it.... It is simply a newer phenomenon, this whole Internet luring

Justice committee  Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. My name is Paul Gillespie. I was previously employed by the Toronto Police Service, where I was lucky enough to serve for 28 years. For the last six years of my duties, I was the officer in charge of the child exploitation section of the sex crime