Public Safety committee  Yes, I'll try to get it--of the coroner's report, are you saying, or of the court decision?

Public Safety committee  Yes. In fact, that was one of the examples I was going to give, but I ran out of time. I'm always too long. This is the case where a pharmacist was selling what turned out to be counterfeit blood pressure medication that has been linked by a coroner.... I don't think he could pr

Public Safety committee  Yes, we will get you a copy. I'm not sure whether it's available right now. It sometimes takes some time for transcription, but we will get it, and as soon as we do, we will forward it.

Public Safety committee  This is currently going on despite the fact that within the last two years there have been two raids on pirated entertainment software outlets, if you want to call them that, in the mall. The level of the penalties, and the fact that we're not doing enough about it is exemplified

Public Safety committee  Speaking of examples, we talked about France already, which put on a big campaign, and that was government-funded. But I actually had a chance to speak to one of the people who had been instrumental in it, and they never really asked the rights holders—

Public Safety committee  Fair enough. Mexico is another example. Mexico came out with some commercials that they put into their movie theatres, etc., and that was a joint effort between industry and government. One of the recommendations that CACN has in the road map and that Graham was talking about i

Public Safety committee  But it's almost indicative in a sense of the lack of education on the issue. They talk about copyright, but they didn't drill down. One of the problems we certainly have to address is our problem with the trademark regime—the fraud side of things, which wasn't specifically mentio

Public Safety committee  Your basic point is absolutely true. What you're talking about is fraud, essentially, when you get to the perfect copies of different items. There's no way to rule out that there may be counterfeits really anywhere, because they do get into the legitimate supply chains. Another

Public Safety committee  And following up on the France comment, France is one of the few countries where it is an offence to possess the good itself. They will seize things in the airport and impose fines. One thing we also handed in, which wasn't mentioned, was an executive summary of a position paper

Public Safety committee  Good morning, Mr. Chairman and honourable members. I'm Brian Isaac. I'm another IP lawyer. I'm a partner with Smart & Biggar. I've been practising in the field for about 20 years. I'm also the chairman of the legislation committee of the Canadian Anti-Counterfeiting Network,