Public Safety committee  Yes, the same answer.

Public Safety committee  Yes, the provincial RCMP is a contract situation.

Public Safety committee  You're asking me to speak for the RCMP, but I can tell you that if they're making a national application, my understanding is that the RCMP pays for it. The RCMP can make application for the provincial program, and if it's approved, the province will pay for it.

Public Safety committee  That's correct.

Public Safety committee  Are you talking, for instance, about closing a courtroom or a publication ban to prevent the picture of the individual from coming out in the newspaper?

Public Safety committee  Those are available.

Public Safety committee  That's right.

Public Safety committee  That's correct.

Public Safety committee  Yes.

Public Safety committee  By the very nature of what they are doing, they are a witness, and as a witness they will have to appear in court to provide their testimony, so that's correct.

Public Safety committee  Clearly, that is the first step, but in some way make it more accessible to smaller organizations. The reality is that the national program is not accessible to many organizations within this country. If we make it accessible, we can start using it.

Public Safety committee  I'll try not to say the word, but money has to be part of that. There could also be an expansion or a tier two of the federal act that would allow more people to come into it, which would be of assistance.

Public Safety committee  Yes, I would agree with that. Clearly, this is a fluid process. If I can go back to a number of years ago, before the provincial program, the reason we moved into a provincial program era was because of the fluidity of the national program. We went in there. Some things worked

Public Safety committee  If we're talking about the national program, the way it currently exists and currently operates, excluding the issues of cost and accessibility, if we're going specifically with the group once they're in there, the program works well. I can echo a high number, 8 or 9, if you woul

Public Safety committee  I would give that a high score as well, keeping in mind that this is dealing with the higher echelon of people and that there's a whole group who fall outside of that program. The percentage is good there too, but it's not within that program.