Industry committee  I'm Kevin Lindsey, chief financial officer. The public accounts, which go to the public accounts committee, contain the actual numbers. You're right, the departmental performance report will also include those actuals and will be tabled in the House.

Industry committee  Correct.

Industry committee  You are right with respect to salaries, which represent about 65% of our operating budget expenditures. The rates are non-discretionary. We have approximately 5,800 people. They're paid x amount of money. That consumes about 65% of the operating budget.

Industry committee  They'll come to us through a combination of supplementary estimates A and the statutory authority contained in the Budget Implementation Act for a portion of the initiatives. We will access the central Treasury Board vote 35 for a portion of the money.

Industry committee  The bulk of the increase, about $120 million of the $132 million, is attributable to two initiatives. One is an automotive innovation fund, which is included in these main estimates. It was not in the previous year's, although it came in to us through supplementary estimates. The

Industry committee  Sir, I believe you referred to the historical level of $57 million for FedNor funding. In fact, the estimates for 2007-08 do reflect approximately $57 million for FedNor: $20 million allocated to the community futures program, which is the historical level, and about $37.2 millio