Public Accounts committee  I'll take a stab at it. First of all, the services that we were asked to provide were services above and beyond the norm of what an insurance company does. They are normal services that a human resource department within a corporation would provide.

Public Accounts committee  Are you okay now, Mr. Roy? Is it okay? On the services that we were asked to provide, we don't want to harp on the fact that we've been a long-term supplier, but the RCMP wanted to take certain functions that were normally done by an employer and outsource them, have somebody else do them.

Public Accounts committee  We have a number of situations where we have that.

Public Accounts committee  It is unusual, but it happens. We have staff on site of other employers.

Public Accounts committee  No, I wouldn't agree with that.

Public Accounts committee  We were asked by the officer in charge of the compensation branch to provide these people. It was with the full knowledge of the insurance committee. Again, we were providing support. We have letters requesting this from Superintendent Mole and Superintendent Fortin.

Public Accounts committee  No.

Public Accounts committee  I don't have a copy with me.

Public Accounts committee  First of all, we didn't recommend Morneau Sobeco. When we bowed out of the exercise on December 13, we did, I recall, have a discussion about what options there were. One of the things, as I mentioned in the opening statement, that we probably said and have a recollection of saying was that you could look at your pension outsourcer.

Public Accounts committee  They are a long-term customer of ours, and we did recognize that we were part of a failed process, perhaps, and we wanted to assist our customer. We, at that time, didn't see anything wrong with that. We had our legal people look at the matter. We suggested that the RCMP have their legal people look at it.

Public Accounts committee  Great-West Life informed the RCMP that we couldn't do the work going forward, and we wanted to assist the RCMP, but we did not select Morneau Sobeco. We were not involved in that process, and we worked with Morneau Sobeco to arrive at a contract after they were selected. We made no money.

Public Accounts committee  If I understand the question correctly, we did not deal with PWGSC. We provided the services. We had the contract with Morneau Sobeco. It's a contract between Great-West Life and Morneau Sobeco on behalf of the RCMP.

Public Accounts committee  The question--

Public Accounts committee  As best I understand you, you've covered quite a lot of the specturm here. Great-West Life began working on the insurance administration outsourcing, and most of the tasks that we assumed were the ones required were things that we could do. As the project unfolded, some of the requirements that were coming to light were newer things that the RCMP and the compensation people decided they wanted.

Public Accounts committee  Yes.