Transport committee  I think that's probably due mostly to the growth in containers into Canada. The bulk goods, of course, are a lot less costly—coal, and you have potash or other bulk goods.

Transport committee  The commodities coming into Canada are for the Wal-Marts, the Targets, and the Costcos, so they're higher-cost goods, as opposed to bulk goods.

Transport committee  The projected growth from the new container port in Prince Rupert will increase container movement into Canada, and as Gordon Houston said, the Vancouver Fraser port also has tremendous growth in container traffic, so that will also put the value of the goods higher.

Transport committee  That trend will continue.

Transport committee  Mr. Zed, Saint John is indeed a great port, and Captain Soppitt is doing a fantastic job as the CEO.

Transport committee  In terms of joint development, I think the Port of Saint John is doing a lot of joint development, as you know, with the Irvings and with the local uptown group. They've done a lot of good with the boardwalk they've built there, and with tourism and that kind of thing. They've enhanced that community greatly.

Transport committee  Some smaller ports have seven employees, so it makes it a little bit difficult when you have seven board members. It's kind of odd. A lot of smaller port authorities have as many board members as employees. There's no need to have as many, as long as there's a good governance structure and we are able to comply with the act in terms of representation on the board.