Finance committee  It's due to a different level of aggregation of that cost category.

Finance committee  Sir, the public accounts are audited by the Auditor General.

Finance committee  Sir, we receive the information for our database from the Receiver General. Frankly, when there are anomalies, we have an opportunity to discuss it with them, with the departments, and it's a normal process. When it was brought to their attention, they promptly worked to resolve

Finance committee  Sir, there are always potential improvements in hand-offs between one agency and another. When we were quoted, it was treated as an issue that was probably different from the actual issue, which was rather technical in nature.

Procedure and House Affairs committee  In order to establish a fairly objective base, we simply compared the information the committee received with what it requested. That reflects some of what we had begun to discuss in terms of comparing our estimates of the costs of justice legislation with those of the government

Procedure and House Affairs committee  On some of the main drivers of costs, if you look at the low end of the PBO range, to some extent it's not that different from the estimate of the government. The biggest assumption difference is when capacity constraints are hit, and the extent to which the government will accom

Public Safety committee  There are administrative costs connected to some bills, but they do not necessarily have a great impact on the government's budget.

Public Safety committee  It depends. That is an assumption...

Public Safety committee  ... with models, considerations and revisions.

Public Safety committee  I am glad to hear about Deloitte Touche. That's my former employer. I worked for their New York office. Given that we had the figures sourced directly to the commissioner, and that was through testimony to a parliamentary committee, our sense was that we could treat that as auth

Public Safety committee  It is only if you accept the assumption.

Public Safety committee  Yes, but in this case, our assumption is that it will cause an increase in the number of inmates.

Public Safety committee  In annex 1 and annex 2 of Mr. Page's presentation we provided some metrics that may be helpful to committee members and that we can source through public sources, like the department itself. This could help you look at things like capital asset replacement and recapitalization. O

Public Safety committee  ... to estimate their own costs. The provinces have access to their own highly detailed data. Our purpose is to indicate a direction because the member who asked us to produce this work wanted to know the national impact of these costs.

Public Safety committee  I simply want to add that these costs are simply those related to Bill C-25. The 3 to 5 billion dollars in costs only cover Bill C-25.