Finance committee  Yes, sir. In fact, this is what we have identified as the core of the issue. While the policy intent has been made more or less clear to us, it's the translation of that policy intent into the actual drafting of the bill that does not allow us to extract a narrow range of variabl

Government Operations committee  There are the details concerning program costs and related operating costs. You must refer to program costs. It would also be very useful for us to have the operating costs.

Government Operations committee  It would help us if you added the word “operations.”

Government Operations committee  Yes.

Finance committee  In this case, a regulation would be needed to establish regular definitions of regions.

Finance committee  It's a non-refundable tax credit, but it's at 100%. It was a common assumption that we had with the Department of Finance as well, and in consultation with--

Finance committee  It's against the tax payable.

Finance committee  Yes, and in the Quebec form, it has its own line.

Finance committee  Yes. It was our consistent view that we also shared with the Department of Finance in further consultations.

Finance committee  In that case, it is important to limit the assumption for calculation purposes. There is enough evidence available from the government of Quebec, which has managed the program appropriately with reasonable results, based on our analysis.

Finance committee  Sir, in this case, the particular nature of this tax credit is that, unlike a tax credit assessed at a 17% value, this is a tax credit at 100%.

Finance committee  In general, the discussions with the provinces were of a technical nature.

Finance committee  In the information the Ministry of Finance in Quebec provided, they also provided demographic information. The bulk of the take-up was in the demographic group 20 to 24, and the balance, 25 to 29. So it gives you some sense of a situation with their specific program or tax credit

Finance committee  I just want to add that this reduction is based on the Finance Canada model. We'd have to look at the eligible population under that scenario to then calculate whether the appropriate take-up rate and assumptions--

Finance committee  Yes, sir, but in this case, one of the things that we've noted is that the costing is quite sensitive to that definition, so a more precise definition would.... We'd be able to provide you—