Public Safety committee  What I am telling the Canadian public is that we are subject to a huge number of controls. How we exercise our judgment will be commented on by the Security Intelligence Review Committee, by the Inspector General, and so on and so forth. If we've made the wrong decision, it will

Public Safety committee  I'm sorry that you've drawn that conclusion. I agree with--

Public Safety committee  Absolutely. Good heavens!

Public Safety committee  Some of the best words that I've read on this, as I say, come from the House of Lords decision. Lord Brown said: Torture is an unqualified evil. It can never be justified. Rather it must always be punished.... But torture may on occasion yield up information capable of saving l

Public Safety committee  I seem to be apologizing a lot. I would make two comments. If I could add the word “knowingly”, I would feel more comfortable, because the reality is that in many cases, you don't know. That's the first point. The second point is that I would reserve, on the side, that one-in

Public Safety committee  You might conclude that. I confess if I have done so. I may go back to my office and find that my director has a word to say to me or that the minister does. But if you have concluded that, that's....

Public Safety committee  No, excuse me. You said--and forgive me--some circumstance, some instance, or some whatever. No. I attempted in my answer to give a substantive answer that there will be those occasional, unusual, almost once-in-a-lifetime situations when that kind of information can be of value

Public Safety committee  I can't comment on specifics, but yes, we continue to share information with agencies from 147 countries, and the vast majority of those countries have human rights records that are not as glowing as ours.

Public Safety committee  I don't have the full report. I have a copy of the recommendations from the factual findings.

Public Safety committee  Thank you, sir. I believe when the director appeared before the committee...and I believe, again, SIRC has commented on the fact that we now have, and we've been using it for several years, a new caveat that we use when there is an indication or a risk that someone may be detain

Public Safety committee  Yes.

Public Safety committee  Once again, I'm attempting to.... I apologized to my friend Mr. Holland several times, because it is tempting to give a simplistic yes-or-no answer to what I consider to be a complicated question, but we have a legal answer, an operational answer, a systemic answer, and that's wh

Public Safety committee  I'm going to answer your question in three ways. You've expressed that you were disappointed, and I'm afraid I'm going to disappoint you more. First point: you refer to the specific findings of Mr. Justice Iacobucci, which I cannot comment on for the reasons I have explained.

Public Safety committee  I'm sorry, Mr. Holland, I'm tempted to respond in the way that a previous Solicitor General, Herb Gray, always used to put forward in the House of Commons—that I don't accept the premise of your question. I cannot speak, as I've said, to Mr. Justice Iacobucci's report. I can spea

Public Safety committee  Excuse me, I'm trying to. I can answer your question in reference to Mr. Justice O'Connor, who said that CSIS exchanged no information with the Americans before the terrible events that happened to Mr. Arar, and that we did not provide information on Mr. Arar to the Syrians. Now,