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Environment committee  The industry is still looking at the reformulation, so it's unclear right now if the price will increase, decrease, or stay the same. They're still doing their testing to find a product that is as effective as and has a better environmental profile than phosphorous.

June 9th, 2008Committee meeting

Chera Jelley

Environment committee  It's mostly imported.

June 9th, 2008Committee meeting

Chera Jelley

Environment committee  Yes, it's from the U.S.

June 9th, 2008Committee meeting

Chera Jelley

Environment committee  I believe 10 states have already passed legislation, based on the 0.5% maximum limit, with an implementation date of July 2010. I believe four or six other states are currently moving in that direction, but they all have the July 1, 2010, deadline. There's a complete exemption fo

June 9th, 2008Committee meeting

Chera Jelley

Environment committee  We agree with the senior counsel from the Department of Justice. There is currently a federal regulation under the phosphorus concentration regulations. It limits laundry detergents to 2.2%. If this bill proceeds and if the bill is amended to 0.5%, as is being proposed by some of

June 9th, 2008Committee meeting

Chera Jelley

Environment committee  There's a very good chance that CCSPA-paying member companies would not have products to sell by that date. We have committed to the July 2010 deadline, and that is what is happening in the U.S. It was an industry-led initiative in the U.S. Unfortunately, they can't do it federal

June 9th, 2008Committee meeting

Chera Jelley

Environment committee  Yes. As I explained to Mr. Bigras, three counties in Washington State have moved toward an implementation date of January 1, 2008, and as a result our member companies are not currently selling products in those three counties.

June 9th, 2008Committee meeting

Chera Jelley

Environment committee  From an industry standpoint, no.

June 9th, 2008Committee meeting

Chera Jelley

Environment committee  It would be until our manufacturers come with their new products, which we've committed to doing by July of 2010.

June 9th, 2008Committee meeting

Chera Jelley

Environment committee  Currently, nil-P products in the U.S.—and these figures I'm not sure of, as I think they're from a few years ago—are .03% of the market. They likely would not have the ability to fill the demand. Our member companies make 86% of the products sold in Canada, and if they can't fill

June 9th, 2008Committee meeting

Chera Jelley

Environment committee  Thank you for the question. There may be some confusion. Several European countries have a complete ban on phosphorous in laundry detergent, I will agree with that. We don't in Canada. There's very little, if any, phosphorous in household laundry detergent. But the difference is

June 9th, 2008Committee meeting

Chera Jelley

Environment committee  They're just not selling products in those three counties. The regulation came into effect in those three counties in Washington State on January 1, 2008, and our member companies are not selling products in those counties currently.

June 9th, 2008Committee meeting

Chera Jelley

Environment committee  I wouldn't be able to answer that question. International...?

June 9th, 2008Committee meeting

Chera Jelley

June 9th, 2008Committee meeting

Chera Jelley

Environment committee  Yes. Instructing the minister to create a regulation is a better way to go about this because it wouldn't conflict with existing federal regulation. The only concern we had with Mr. Scarpaleggia's bill is allowing an exemption for commercial and institutional uses, but other than

June 9th, 2008Committee meeting

Chera Jelley