Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  I just want to comment on the PBO report, then I'll make my comments on B.C., and then I'll get to the last one. In terms of the—

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  Okay. On the PBO report, the number I think I used was 462 schools. The PBO report took any education-related facilities. They took teacherages, machine shops--they took everything.

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  School assets...but then they essentially dealt with them as if they were schools. They then went to calculate what the appropriate school square footage or square metres was and things like that. We're saying they needed to look at the actual schools.

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  That's where I mentioned about using the integrated capital management system. In terms of my comment on B.C., I wasn't trying to suggest they would be happy with the current formula. I was trying to say they wouldn't necessarily want the same factors to be considered as what FNEC is considering.

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  What the cost is depends on where you are. But they do have to take the money.

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  They have to pay the money, except in certain circumstances, and I would ask Céline to speak on that.

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  I don't know if it has been corrected across the country. You're absolutely right. There was a reciprocal agreement negotiated in British Columbia whereby the same amount will be paid if a first nations child goes to a provincial school or if a provincial child goes to a first nations school.

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  I would say that in British Columbia they have recently negotiated a reciprocal agreement such that it's exactly the same amount of money.

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  Maybe I can start by talking about what the federal government has done to try to coordinate some of those early childhood development programs, and then Kathleen can talk about the future and what our thinking is. In the federal government there are a number of programs, and you may be aware of this, in different departments.

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  In terms of the first question about how many are on the list, I can certainly mention the ones that relate to Canada's economic action plan. The announcement was $200 million for 10 new schools and three major renovations. There are, in addition to that, other schools that are on the list in the long-term capital plan, and I believe that long-term capital plan was shared with this committee.

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  I believe we were before this committee talking about post-secondary education a month or so ago, so we spoke quite a bit about post-secondary education. But when we look at the data on post-secondary education, what we are seeing is a decline in the number of students being assisted, and we think that's an issue.

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  I don't have the number right in my head. The Parliamentary Budget Officer did some research on the issue of what you should estimate to be the longevity of a school and they came up with a number that's a Canada standard: 40 years. I don't know what their average would be. We would have some schools that are definitely older than 40 years and we would have some schools that are younger.

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  We've been working with FNEC on a work plan for moving forward--

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  It's funded, so we agree on the work plan and on what will be done, and INAC provides the funding.

Indigenous and Northern Affairs committee  Since 2006, 16 new schools have been constructed at a cost of $165.3 million. In addition, there have been another 37 school building projects such as construction of temporary school facilities and minor or major renovation projects, for a total of $258.9 million.