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Fisheries committee  First of all, Mr. Weston, I'm glad you picked up on one particular thing that I'm going to refer to now. It is much better to have flag-state enforcement when the flag states are willing to enforce. It's much better if flag states themselves take the necessary action to stop thei

March 5th, 2009Committee meeting

Bernard Applebaum

Fisheries committee  According to Mr. Bevan, who has been following it, this is the current state of affairs. It's very good, obviously, that it is. But will it hold in the long term? The fact that it seems to be working right now doesn't mean it will hold in the long term. If you're negotiating a ne

March 5th, 2009Committee meeting

Bernard Applebaum

Fisheries committee  Unequivocally I can answer yes to that, not only in the annual and more than annual NAFO negotiations I attended, but in the negotiations for the original NAFO convention.

March 5th, 2009Committee meeting

Bernard Applebaum

Fisheries committee  Thank you for that question. Some of the answer will be things you've heard before, but I'll have a try at the major principles for a new convention to replace or amend NAFO. One is that the integrity of the Canadian 200-mile zone has to be protected. There should be no provision

March 5th, 2009Committee meeting

Bernard Applebaum

Fisheries committee  The term “custodial management” is a term that usually gets used without people trying to put a definition on it. In its simplest concept it means that Canada would unilaterally be able to control fishing outside 200 miles for the purposes of conservation. That's essentially what

March 5th, 2009Committee meeting

Bernard Applebaum

Fisheries committee  The answer is no.

March 5th, 2009Committee meeting

Bernard Applebaum

Fisheries committee  Could I add one thing?

March 5th, 2009Committee meeting

Bernard Applebaum

Fisheries committee  Mr. Kramp said that Mr. Parsons had “impugned” the EU negotiators. Most of the focus was on the Canadians. I just want to make the point that no one is impugning the EU negotiators. They had their interests. They pursued their interests, and they got what they wanted out of thi

March 5th, 2009Committee meeting

Bernard Applebaum

Fisheries committee  I've forgotten the number--twelve, thirteen, something like that. I'm sorry. I don't know the number offhand. I can tell you afterwards when I look it up.

March 5th, 2009Committee meeting

Bernard Applebaum

Fisheries committee  Thank you.

March 5th, 2009Committee meeting

Bernard Applebaum

Fisheries committee  I was the director general of the international directorate that was engaged in all the bilateral and multilateral negotiations that were being done, and that was from about the mid-1980s until I retired in 1996. So we're running about 12 years, I think, that I was the director g

March 5th, 2009Committee meeting

Bernard Applebaum

Fisheries committee  That's right. I was one of the team that negotiated the old NAFO convention.

March 5th, 2009Committee meeting

Bernard Applebaum

Fisheries committee  And I have 28. I don't know if it will add up quite to a hundred, but probably reasonably close.

March 5th, 2009Committee meeting

Bernard Applebaum

Fisheries committee  Yes, I can, but the first point I want to make is that the European Union that proposed this provision that allows NAFO to manage and enforce inside 200 miles didn't propose it and get it and insist on it for fun. They did it because they intend to use it. That's why it's there a

March 5th, 2009Committee meeting

Bernard Applebaum

Fisheries committee  Never, but of course the United States has no straddling stocks. We are the ones. Canada is the coastal state in the northwest Atlantic that has straddling stocks and that depends on control outside 200 miles to be able to stop overfishing out there. There is no similar situation

March 5th, 2009Committee meeting

Bernard Applebaum