Fisheries committee  Yes. Mr. Bevan testified about what's been happening in terms of perceived violations. You were referring to this. What we have to bear in mind is that you can't assume that what happened in 2007 and 2008 will continue for the next five or ten years. We've been here before. Foll

Fisheries committee  You've raised a very important point, Mr. Stoffer. If you go back to the presentation you were given earlier this week about the objectives of this NAFO reform process, there was one page that said “stated objectives”, and the first objective was to protect Canadian shares. Nowh

Fisheries committee  Mr. Stoffer, I had intended last night to check the scientific council reports to update myself on this topic, but I didn't. I am aware that these stocks have been under siege for quite some time. There have been moratoria in effect for many of them. There has been some recovery-

Fisheries committee  It is certainly necessary to have some form of management regime in a place outside of 200 miles. We've seen the pillaging that occurred under an ineffective NAFO organization. We need an improved management regime that includes the provisions Mr. Applebaum and I have mentioned--

Fisheries committee  I am not totally familiar with the process you're referring to, Mr. Byrne. I'm aware of the more general Marine Stewardship Council certification process. It's becoming the interest of industry around the world to enter into certification processes to establish that fisheries are

Fisheries committee  On my comments about the process leading up to the result and the role of various people in that process, first of all I would make a clarification. I didn't question the ability of the negotiators. I suggested they were under a compulsion to arrive at an agreement. Given that th

Fisheries committee  It's very relevant.

Fisheries committee  I worked for the Department of Fisheries and Oceans, or its predecessors, for 34 years. I started my career as a biological scientist under the Fisheries Research Board in St. John's, Newfoundland. Then in the late 1970s, around the time of the extension of the fisheries jurisdic

Fisheries committee  You want to know the latter part of my career. After being on the fisheries side for a while, I was assistant deputy minister of science from 1986 to 1988. For four years I was away from the Department of Fisheries and Oceans, writing a book on the management of marine fisheries

Fisheries committee  Not as tired as I was.

Fisheries committee  Shame on you, Mr. Member. Shame on you and shame on the people at DFO who provided you with that question.

Fisheries committee  I will answer the question, but it's a shame that the question should be asked on this topic. I was assistant deputy minister of science from 1986 to 1988. I returned to that position in 1994. Before returning to that position in 1994, I worked with the establishment, under Mr.

Fisheries committee  I have 35.

Fisheries committee  It's not the first time I've been admonished by a chair of a committee to be short. Yes, Mr. Blais, they are sovereign states. And you're right, you have to try to achieve some kind of agreement. The reason we're now in this situation where you have this proposed amendment pac

Fisheries committee  Thank you, Mr. Blais. You're correct. The old NAFO did not work, and I see no reason to think, based on what we have in front of us in this amendment package, that the amended NAFO will work. The reason I say that is part of the reason the old NAFO, the existing NAFO, didn't wo