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Public Safety committee  Oh, no, all of that would have been in July.

February 8th, 2011Committee meeting

D/Commr Raf Souccar

Public Safety committee  Again, I simply relayed the situation as I laid it out in my opening comments.

February 8th, 2011Committee meeting

D/Commr Raf Souccar

Public Safety committee  It was in July of 2010, at which point he seemed to be, as I would describe him, shocked by what I said to him. He asked me if this was something that happens once every six months or once a year. I told him that it happens very frequently, sometimes daily.

February 8th, 2011Committee meeting

D/Commr Raf Souccar

Public Safety committee  After that he asked me if there was anyone else who had witnessed this. I said yes. He said that he wanted to speak to them. I believe that seven or eight assistant commissioners went down and met with Bill Baker separately. I wasn't there.

February 8th, 2011Committee meeting

D/Commr Raf Souccar

Public Safety committee  It was all at the same time. They were in a meeting room, I believe. I was not there. They all relayed their own experiences.

February 8th, 2011Committee meeting

D/Commr Raf Souccar

Public Safety committee  I can take this one. First of all, you described the RCMP very well. We are a large and complex organization with a diverse mandate, different from any police agency that I know of in the world. I can also tell you that we are the envy of the world. If you compare the RCMP with

February 8th, 2011Committee meeting

D/Commr Raf Souccar

Public Safety committee  In my opening comments I said that there does not appear to be a debate any longer as to whether the next commissioner should be a police officer or not. Bill Elliott himself--as recently as in this morning's paper, I believe--said that the next one should absolutely be a police

February 8th, 2011Committee meeting

D/Commr Raf Souccar

Public Safety committee  I'm sorry, I can't think of one item that Commissioner Elliott wanted to bring to the RCMP. Something may come to me later—I'm blank right now—but that wasn't the issue as much as how quickly things—

February 8th, 2011Committee meeting

D/Commr Raf Souccar

Public Safety committee  They are exploited individuals, no doubt about it.

February 8th, 2011Committee meeting

D/Commr Raf Souccar

Public Safety committee  I remember the discussion on that. The reason it may be referred to as work has to do with the fact that these individuals are exploited doing that work, but it is not legitimate work.

February 8th, 2011Committee meeting

D/Commr Raf Souccar

Public Safety committee  I suppose it's no different from when Brian Burke took over the Toronto Maple Leafs as general manager and he made a bunch of trades. If you come into an organization, ideally you can bring your own team in. But unfortunately, that's not the way things work. There are police ch

February 8th, 2011Committee meeting

D/Commr Raf Souccar

Public Safety committee  My view is that a commissioner should be picking at least his or her direct reports.

February 8th, 2011Committee meeting

D/Commr Raf Souccar

Public Safety committee  I think that is a question that should be put to the commissioner, not me.

February 8th, 2011Committee meeting

D/Commr Raf Souccar

Public Safety committee  I believe, as I said earlier, that Bill Elliott is a very intelligent man. His intentions were always in the right place, as far as I'm concerned. It was more of a question as to how he went about accomplishing his goals and objectives. Whether or not his decisions were based on

February 8th, 2011Committee meeting

D/Commr Raf Souccar

Public Safety committee  I'm afraid I can't answer that.

February 8th, 2011Committee meeting

D/Commr Raf Souccar