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Public Safety committee  We have lots of concern about the ability of the government to process the transactions, and not just in the gun show area. As Mr. Torino mentioned, what about estate sales? Somebody dies, the executor brings in 20 or 30 or 50 guns that need to be transferred, but they can't tran

May 24th, 2018Committee meeting

Tony Bernardo

Public Safety committee  It's to register it, nothing more than that.

May 24th, 2018Committee meeting

Tony Bernardo

Public Safety committee  That's a restricted one, by the way.

May 24th, 2018Committee meeting

Tony Bernardo

Public Safety committee  That's not true. In the original long-gun registry bill, there was a regulation passed by former minister Toews who ordered the CFOs to destroy the ledgers, those were the green books that all the firearms information had been written down in. They were ordered to destroy all the

May 24th, 2018Committee meeting

Tony Bernardo

May 24th, 2018Committee meeting

Tony Bernardo

Public Safety committee  That's right, but it's not a verification number. It's a transfer authorization number because, on restricted and prohibited firearms, every time there's a transfer, there is an investigation into the individual. Then the transfer authorization number is issued saying that the tr

May 24th, 2018Committee meeting

Tony Bernardo

Public Safety committee  That's correct.

May 24th, 2018Committee meeting

Tony Bernardo

Public Safety committee  Thank you, Mr. Dubé. You have hit the essence of this. There is a separate number issued for every transaction of non-restricted firearms. They are being treated exactly the same as restricted and prohibited. The only difference is that there is no paper certificate being issued,

May 24th, 2018Committee meeting

Tony Bernardo

Public Safety committee  The answer is clearly yes. Section 102 of the existing Firearms Act gives the inspector access to any record to copy or duplicate, access to electronic records, everything. An inspector could walk into a gun store right now today and say, “I want all your records.” This doesn't c

May 24th, 2018Committee meeting

Tony Bernardo

Public Safety committee  Yes it is. Are we now going to model our gun laws after the U.S.?

May 24th, 2018Committee meeting

Tony Bernardo

Public Safety committee  Because clearly, they have some that aren't working, so let's flip this back around.

May 24th, 2018Committee meeting

Tony Bernardo

Public Safety committee  Yes, they do. When they go to a store, and they have to do the ATF forms and the waiting periods and everything that most people don't know they have to do, yes, they view it as a registry, that ATF is collecting this data, which of course, they are.

May 24th, 2018Committee meeting

Tony Bernardo

Public Safety committee  Absolutely. Of course they do warranties and things like that, but those records belong to the business, not the federal government. That's the difference.

May 24th, 2018Committee meeting

Tony Bernardo

Public Safety committee  It doesn't have to be a warrant. I just explained that section 102 allows a chief firearms officer inspector access to the records anytime, 24-7. They can walk in the store and say, “Let me see the records.”

May 24th, 2018Committee meeting

Tony Bernardo

Public Safety committee  For the purposes of whatever they want. There are no purposes defined. They walk in and say, “We're photocopying every single record you have. We're taking your computer with us.” They can do that now.

May 24th, 2018Committee meeting

Tony Bernardo