Natural Resources committee  Germany started this process about 1990, just to give you a perspective on how long it took to get from where they started to where they are today. It took about 20 years.

Natural Resources committee  With respect to smart grid technology, there have been committees within and without Ontario, and there are documents that have been released probably in the last four or five weeks. It would behoove the committee to take a look at this. It's probably a good picture of where smart grids could go.

Natural Resources committee  I can tell you that I'm responsible not only for conservation, but also for the renewable generations coming on our grid. First of all, we're a municipal organization, and we're responsible for only the Ottawa region. So I can only speak to that. Let me first address the issue of being, as you suggested, at the end of a feeder.