Agriculture committee  I do, thanks, Darren. Mr. MacGregor, I have a couple of points I can offer really quickly. One, our programs—and they're probably similar to the other programs you've heard discussed at this committee—all have a training component for the farmer and for farm employees. They're mandatory programs, so that training has to happen.

Agriculture committee  Thanks very much, Darren. Thanks, Mr. MacGregor. It's an important question. By way of context, we have to remember that the people who break and enter into a barn are animal activists. They're not the general population that cares about animal welfare. I'm not sure that what Humane Canada is proposing would address or go any way towards mitigating the kind of activist activity we've seen.

Agriculture committee  Mr. Ference will speak.

Agriculture committee  I think you've covered everything.

Agriculture committee  Thank you. Mr. Lemieux, I think if we go back to Mark's opening comments, that our organization is one that is there to facilitate and provide, it's consistent with your question. But in terms of our role, we think and we hope that the turkey farmers in this country are among the best-informed farmers in terms of what's going on around them and in terms of the kinds of things they have to consider when they do their own risk profiles, for example.

Agriculture committee  Thank you, Mr. Chair, to Mr. Valeriote. On the shipping end of the farm gate, the marketing boards provide a producer voice. A price is negotiated; it gives producers that collective strength in the marketplace on what they're shipping. That having been said, the pressure from a relatively concentrated retail sector to the buyers of live turkey or to the further processors of turkey meat products does filter back, and market signals get transmitted to the farm level as well.