Transport committee  I have that information. I will dig it up and get it to the committee.

Transport committee  In my opinion the terrain awareness system is an integral safety item on an aircraft that really would have given the picture to the pilots that there was terrain right in front of them. The equipment they have only gives them altitude directly underneath them.

Transport committee  It has to be phased in over time. At the time, I don't believe it was absolutely required. But new aircraft coming into the system are required to have it.

Transport committee  No, I'm not suggesting there was.

Transport committee  Probably not.

Transport committee  Under the previous regime you would conceivably have had a Transport Canada inspector on the flight deck at times, doing inspections in flights, and he would have noticed—

Transport committee  No, there's no law that specifically says you must.

Transport committee  Well, it's not related to what I was saying. I mean the piece of equipment—

Transport committee  It is not the piece of equipment that created the crash. It is the actual series of events that led to this, in that the pilots did not get the proper crew resource management training. They did not understand how the system disengaged itself—

Transport committee  Well, if you understood it as you state, I'm sorry. That's not exactly what I meant to say. What I'm saying is, that piece of equipment would have saved the day but it was not installed. It was not necessarily required by the regulation on that airplane at that moment. I wasn't i

Transport committee  —crew resource management was an issue as well with First Air. That's not related to technology at all. That's a function of.... We're supposed to look at that.

Transport committee  Yes it does.

Transport committee  I believe it's a percentile.

Transport committee  That is correct.

Transport committee  And they are planning for it.