Transport committee  There's always that fear. I can't talk about what businesses will do in future. However, we've already wondered about that.

Transport committee  I think it's SUR-001, version 3.

Transport committee  Yes, we did.

Transport committee  No, and in fact, we used to do things like ramp inspections. We'd show up.... I was subjected to one in a Transport Canada aircraft at...I believe it was not St. Catharines, but London. We landed, and an inspector walked up to us and said, “We chose you at random--show us your do

Transport committee  Yes. The research by the demographer Ms. Duxbury, which we commissioned, has shown us the extent of the problem.

Transport committee  Yes, we had expressed our fears and submitted those complaints to the committee.

Transport committee  Previously, to conduct an inspection, we consulted the logs. The time people spent on duty was always subject to very thorough inspection. Honestly, now, we ask whether there is a system for verifying whether people are rested, and we're told there is one. So we assume they are.

Transport committee  It won't be easy.

Transport committee  I've not asked my members to comment on that, so I don't know what I can tell you about it at this time. This is the new SUR...?

Transport committee  That's correct. We have the impression that, for the inspectors, there is no available time in the case of the 30%.

Transport committee  I can't really speak for Mr. Grégoire, but 20 pilots were hired last year to work at the department, but we lost 27. So we lost seven. I'm willing to believe they want to hire people, but 20 at a time isn't enough.

Transport committee  There are a number of reasons. I believe there's a major shortage of pilots. I can give you an example. A few years ago, when the airline was going bankrupt, people who lost their jobs tried to find work at Transport Canada. That's no longer the case. When Skyservice went bankrup

Transport committee  Yes. I'm also not sure the qualifications required of candidates are currently available. There has to have a lot of knowledge on safety management systems and risk management. However, pilots from outside the organization generally haven't worked—

Transport committee  I can report that the individual who came to me and said that he had difficulty with a particular flight still hasn't received any answers other than what he received in the first instance, which was, “thank you very much for your input”. That was it.

Transport committee  He hasn't heard anything. I'm not privy to what has been decided and neither are you. The only person who would know would be the principal inspector who would have to do some follow-up on that, and then the responsibility seems to lie with that individual.