Transport committee  Of course nobody argues the fact that fatigue needs to be managed. The carriers do that now through SMS systems. The fact that there is the science for or against the position the government has taken on this is significant. What we are saying, however, is that you cannot apply

Transport committee  Your question has several elements. First, the change in culture, brought about by establishing safety management systems, leads to many changes in the activities of many people. A lot of people have reacted badly to these changes and do not share this philosophy of how to proce

Transport committee  Good morning. Bonjour. My name is John McKenna, and I'm president of the Air Transport Association of Canada. ATAC has represented Canada's commercial air transport industry since 1934. We have approximately 190 members engaged in commercial aviation operating in every region of

Public Safety committee  No, sir. We share that responsibility with the National Airlines Council of Canada. We represent some of the larger carriers but mostly the regional and smaller carriers.

Public Safety committee  Mike is our local expert, our subject matter expert. He is usually consulted in these matters. I'll let him reply to this.

Public Safety committee  I'll ask Mr. Skrobica, who is our expert on that, to answer your question, and I will provide more details, if necessary.

Public Safety committee  Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, and members of the committee. My name is John McKenna. I'm president and CEO of the Air Transport Association of Canada, and I'm accompanied here today by Mr. Mike Skrobica, senior vice-president and CFO. The Air Transport Association of Ca

International Trade committee  Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and members of the committee. My name is John McKenna. I'm the president and chief executive officer of the Air Transport Association of Canada. I'm accompanied today by Mr. Les Aalders, who is executive vice-president, and by Mr. Wayne Gou

Transport committee  We shared it with them from the beginning. From the design part of it all the way through, we've shared it. It's not necessarily known by all inspectors out in the field. Transport Canada would never go as far as sanctioning it or giving it its golden seal of approval, but they a

Transport committee  Well, that's their answer.

Transport committee  Yes, we are following that. Transport Canada assures us these cuts were not safety related.

Transport committee  I would say that there are more flights, but the safety record is also improving. It would be useful to know in which segments of the air industry they get these numbers from, rather than just throwing out a number.

Transport committee  It's not only so much the system, the system is how a company works day-to-day and that is the operations of the company. Sometimes a company will even self-report on incidents or there will be reports following from PVIs or whatever. That information, when it's disclosed to th

Transport committee  Did you refer to terminals? I did not understand the question.

Transport committee  I said that we should not transfer a system that applies to category 705 and expect that operators of categories 703 and 704 will implement the same system in their organization. The challenge is to develop a system that is appropriate to the size of these enterprises.