Fisheries committee  Before I address the question on the therapeutants, I agree with you in terms of the ISA; all I'm saying is that...and I hope that isn't the case. I hope the testing that DFO does, and the testing the Canadian Food Inspection Agency does, is correct. Don't get me wrong on that. T

Fisheries committee  I think the concept is actually to build these modules side by side, if you want to expand the facility to commercial size. So this is a commercially sized module that gets cheaper as you make it bigger, because you get the economies of scale as a result. The module itself is d

Fisheries committee  No, I don't think so. The number I've seen is 140 hectares of space to replace that. It's 80,000 tonnes, and if this all fits on, let's say, even five acres for 1,000 tonnes--

Fisheries committee  --five acres times 80 is 400 acres. Does that sound like 400 acres...? It's something like that.

Fisheries committee  The module is designed for the 260 metric tonnes using a 20% discharge per day. That's the 1,000 litres per minute of groundwater that you need to make up that discharge amount. That's actually not a very large volume. I'm trying to put it in terms of maybe a four-inch pipe with

Fisheries committee  Well, a ticking time bomb may have already gone off if this ISA virus is in fact loose in the north Pacific. If I roll back the clock to before ISA was detected in B.C., I would have said there might be a five-year window of opportunity, maybe up to a ten-year window, without a

Fisheries committee  I would say, realistically, that to create the same volume of product that is currently produced--about 80,000 tonnes a year of farmed salmon in B.C.--that's probably a ten-year process from today. So that's from the start, basically, of the pilot project through to the point whe

Fisheries committee  I'm sure you've been following the ISA stories over the last few weeks. I think it's the same virulent strain of ISA—I'm not a scientist—that got into Chile and decimated their open net-pen business about three years ago. Apparently they reported another outbreak of ISA in Chile

Fisheries committee  So far it's not a lot of money. They were involved in the feasibility study. This is DFO I'm talking about specifically. We applied and we are successful applicants for some more money, but that application has not yet been announced, so I'm not at liberty to say how that is go

Fisheries committee  The Freshwater Institute has been seconded, if you like, into this project. Tides Canada, quite separately from the closed containment facility that we just talked about, has funded some research programs at the Freshwater Institute. And part of their contract is that the Freshwa

Fisheries committee  When we went for our funding for this farm, I would say the most rigorous process was Sustainable Development Technology Canada, SDTC. We wrote a detailed application as per their requirements. They have a multi-stage due diligence process that they go through, and they require a

Fisheries committee  As I said, the farmers have changed their operations to recognize the out-migration periods of the wild salmon. There is early harvest, before the out-migration. There's the addition of therapeutants to the feed at the right time so that the lice don't exist on the fish in as gre

Fisheries committee  That would help immensely--absolutely. You can still apply some very stringent criteria and you'll get consistency as well. Once we have this pilot established, as Chief Cranmer said, we're going to provide the information for no cost, through workshops and through maybe licens

Fisheries committee  Well, that's right. That levels the playing field. On the one hand, most facilities are subjected to some kind of a licensing fee, which compensates the local stakeholders and the owners—and the general public—for damage done to the environment, but in the open net-cage busines

Fisheries committee  Do you want to answer the first one, about the information?