Industry committee  That definitely is the sixty-four thousand dollar question, there's no question. I think one of the ways you do it is that you actually work on issues and problems that matter to Canada, and you do that very explicitly. Then you do it by designing your approach with complete un

Industry committee  I have to say that I personally haven't had really any direct interaction for some time. My views would be dated. I'd rather ask our staff who are working with them to bring some of those views forward.

Industry committee  Yes. Actually, IRAP is interesting, because the company really has the IP. In every case that's the circumstance. NRC retains a bit of a hook so that companies can't just flip it internationally and that sort of thing—i.e., they actually have to live up to the “benefit to Canada”

Industry committee  Historically, if you went back a few years, it was probably more difficult to access than it will be going forward. The primary reason for that was that we were operating in a very fragmented fashion. As we go forward, we recognize that we've got to make our business processes mo

Industry committee  Well, as I am sure you know, the Canadian aerospace industry was number four in the world until a couple of years ago. It's now number five. Its overall sales have risen, but its world ranking has slipped. I am sure you also understand that there are changing global landscapes

Industry committee  Yes.

Industry committee  Again, I have to reiterate that to this point in time, the budgetary impact on NRC has been positive, not negative. With a growing participation by industry, that should continue, notwithstanding whether the funding goes up any more from government. Aerospace remains a very large

Industry committee  Yes, that's correct.

Industry committee  Basic to applied is not a good way of assessing it.

Industry committee  You do basic that you have to do to achieve an end. We don't do basic in the sense of curiosity. That's the difference. How that will shake out is going to be a moving target. It will move all the time, so it's not a very meaningful number.

Industry committee  I don't know what you'd read in reports. You can read on how what—

Industry committee  We don't talk about basic research, actually; the outside community does a lot, but internally we actually don't very much....

Industry committee  Again, if we move into a more industrial space, which we're talking about doing, the peer-reviewed articles will decline. The industrially oriented articles will rise. What we'll start to see more of is publications in industrial-type publications as opposed to peer-reviewed. P

Industry committee  The decline? I don't think that's a measurable or estimable thing, but—

Industry committee  No, it's not a metric, really.