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Transport committee  We're not suggesting that the government goes back. We're just saying that is an option to be considered. What we're looking for is the best bang for our buck. We want to find the most efficient cost-effective approach. It may be government; it may be privatized. We're not sure

May 6th, 2010Committee meeting

Lorne Mackenzie

Transport committee  If we can find those efficiencies and reduce the cost, we're all winners, in that sense, without jeopardizing the level of security. Again, I'm pushing for this review for the purposes of finding out where the inefficiencies are. I hearken back to the day when our carriers did t

May 6th, 2010Committee meeting

Lorne Mackenzie

Transport committee  My initial comment is that we have to remove a lot of barriers. There's some sensitivity about sharing information. Those kinds of regulations need to be adjusted to accommodate a more global approach. If each of the 50 states in the U.S. is doing an enhanced driver's licence, it

May 6th, 2010Committee meeting

Lorne Mackenzie

Transport committee  Yes, it's truly a risk assessment, and a full risk assessment would be required to determine what an acceptable level of risk would be.

May 6th, 2010Committee meeting

Lorne Mackenzie

Transport committee  I was just going to add an additional comment. In the flight plan review that was conducted, it was important to note that while the consultation was excellent, they stated up front that budget-slash-funding issues would not be discussed. So it was not completely a fulsome revi

May 6th, 2010Committee meeting

Lorne Mackenzie

Transport committee  The reference to behavioural is an example. What we're looking at is more of a global approach. There are going to be elements of other programs—Israel has come up as sort of a leader in that area—that we can consider as part of that review and say what components, if not all, ar

May 6th, 2010Committee meeting

Lorne Mackenzie

Transport committee  I can't speak to where we're going. Hopefully that will come up in our review. I have heard of similar programs like that in Australia, and I understand it's relatively effective. I think the premise is quite reasonable in that you take your time and energy, provide all of that

May 6th, 2010Committee meeting

Lorne Mackenzie

Transport committee  I think biometrics is becoming a best practice, absolutely.

May 6th, 2010Committee meeting

Lorne Mackenzie

Transport committee  So I'd say it's evolving, and we're moving in that direction, but it leads to your point about the prohibited items. There's a trend away from bad items toward bad people. We're looking less about the nail clippers and more about the behavioural piece and saying that maybe there'

May 6th, 2010Committee meeting

Lorne Mackenzie

Transport committee  I honestly believe it's evolutionary. Keep in mind, 9/11 changed the industry forever. This recent event in December changed the industry forever. The environment we operated in 10 years ago is so different from today, we're essentially evolving to catch up to the new world that

May 6th, 2010Committee meeting

Lorne Mackenzie

Transport committee  The NEXUS card would be a good example of that. You show your card, you go through biometrics, you're known. The opposite, particularly for the U.S., is that you're a “quad S” on the boarding pass, where you're identified as somebody who requires something additional. So that wil

May 6th, 2010Committee meeting

Lorne Mackenzie

Transport committee  I think the principle there is that if you're willing to, quote, “sacrifice” that information to the service provider, in return for that you get expedited screening or expedited services through screening. It's not to suggest that you're going to get a reduction in secondary, et

May 6th, 2010Committee meeting

Lorne Mackenzie

Transport committee  Part of the reason is that in Canada we tend to be more conservative, and there's a sensitivity to the behavioural--

May 6th, 2010Committee meeting

Lorne Mackenzie

Transport committee  Allow me to address the scanners first. First of all, I'm sure I can speak for Air Canada and the other NACC members when I say that we would not fly if we felt there was any security risk. We have confidence in the system, that they are screening to the point where we're satis

May 6th, 2010Committee meeting

Lorne Mackenzie

Transport committee  I think that's kind of what's driving our interest to do a review. Obviously there are better efficiencies and more cost-effective approaches to this. We're hoping that through a review we can find out what those systems are, to take out, for example, inefficiencies and get to a

May 6th, 2010Committee meeting

Lorne Mackenzie