Fisheries committee  My reading of that particular clause is that it's an expression of the precautionary approach. That was my understanding of it.

Fisheries committee  Again, I remind you that, from my perspective, Bill C-55 is enabling legislation that sets out a framework through which we make decisions on what we intend to protect. To use again the term “adaptive management”, for me it's implementation. What exactly are we going to be protecting?

Fisheries committee  I'll let Mr. Wareham answer.

Fisheries committee  I'm not qualified to answer about predator control. I'm sorry, that's not my area of research expertise.

Fisheries committee  Science doesn't replace decision-making. Remember you're bringing—

Fisheries committee  Science is an input into decision-making. It sounds to me as though what you're really asking is how we go about making the trade-offs between industrial use and protection of the environment.

Fisheries committee  Science is only one input into that decision.

Fisheries committee  Again, define what evidence would be put in there. I'm being hesitant there, because I think that in the past, one, science has been very narrowly defined in these processes and, two, I think it's important to take broader impacts into the evidence and those include the social, cultural, traditional, and ecological impacts, and to bring that knowledge as evidence into this decision-making.

Fisheries committee  According to the literature, yes, human activity on land has a greater impact on the ocean today.

Fisheries committee  The reason I make the distinction between holistic and integration is from the work of Joanna Vince from Australia. She's taken a look at the Australian example around their success, or not in their case, with regional integrated management plans. She's asking the question of what is integration and whether that's what we should be looking forward to.

Fisheries committee  Again, I live in the community. I live in a coastal community, which is what brought me to the ocean.

Fisheries committee  I can't speak to the testimony of other stakeholders, but I'd say two things in response. First, keep in mind that it's enabling legislation. It's legislation. A lot of good work needs to be done on the implementation side. I encourage this committee to stay active on that aspect of it.

Fisheries committee  I think it's a basic international standard today.

Fisheries committee  Technically, in geographic terms, yes.

Fisheries committee  I think you have to set targets and push hard for them. It's been 20 years that we've had these targets almost in play, and they haven't been achieved. To some of the testimony that took place earlier, consultation.... Again, this is why I think having a better definition of some of these terms is important.