Status of Women committee  One person, for example, was telling me that he was able to get money from foundations and from provincial authorities as well, because the grant allowed him to in fact demonstrate that the project could work in the longer term.

Status of Women committee  In that case, he got it.

Status of Women committee  When they don't, it's because they didn't make the demonstration that it would work.

Status of Women committee  Do you mean how do we know that it is under-reported...?

Status of Women committee  Right. I think that when you talk to service providers, for example, and some of the people who are on the front lines, that's an estimation; it cannot be more than that. Very often, they may have encountered some situation in which the person is not willing to talk about it, but

Status of Women committee  Yes. I would say two things. The first is that awareness can have two impacts. One is that people will be ready to report because now they will recognize it. In fact, what the campaign really did was put a name on it. Before, people didn't necessarily think in terms of abuse. N

Status of Women committee  I cannot agree more. This is part of the issue. The reason it's so difficult is that very often it's a relative, a member of the family, who is involved, and very often that's why it's important to break the isolation. You have people who are really isolated and depending on the

Status of Women committee  That's a very interesting question in a way, which will bring me to say something else as well. But I'll start at the beginning. The ad had a 1-800-O-Canada number at the end of it. What the advertisement was saying, basically, was that if you want to know more, if you need som

Status of Women committee  Oh, I think there are many elements that were put in place. The awareness is not only the first step but is also something we'll have to keep doing, because we're not finished with that at this stage. The second thing is that it was important to start developing tools for front

Status of Women committee  I think the government commitment is pretty clear. I would say that what you have here is a way to use all the tools available to address that issue, and this is one among others. If you ask me, this one alone won't make the difference, and another one alone might not make the di

Status of Women committee  Yes. I would say that one of our main objectives--and I think it's also the objective of all of our partners--is to ensure that we can share all of the information we have. As you said, first of all, it's difficult to get the information, but we are learning, not only from the

Status of Women committee  At the moment, and because we need basic information, as well as to agree on a definition--I think that's the question being asked--we are funding Canada's national initiative for the care of the elderly. That's a two-year research project that is going to develop an operational

Status of Women committee  First of all, as a result of the creation of the National Seniors Council and the recommendations of the first report, we've seen the establishment of the special initiative, the federal elder abuse initiative, which had funding of $3 million over three years. Following this, a

Status of Women committee  That's right. At the moment, the annual budget for the new horizons for seniors program is $45 million per year.

Status of Women committee  That's correct.