Government Operations committee  I haven't. I don't know whether it's come through in any other.... I don't know whether OSME has heard either. I think some small corporations struggle to get to that percentage, so we encourage joint venturing. That then allows smaller indigenous businesses to partner up.

Government Operations committee  I see that as a partnership. Certainly INAC takes on a certain portion of the PSAB and has expertise in order to work with aboriginal businesses and federal departments, but it's done in partnership with PSPC. When we go out and offer sessions to federal departments, it's done

Government Operations committee  We're not expecting that it's going to change the direction we're taking. The whole division of the department is to get to better outcomes. PSAB will stay as a strategy, and it's supported.

Government Operations committee  No.

Government Operations committee  I'm not sure whether I would say it's a value of acceptable growth. What I would say is that there's been an awful lot of work to go out and speak to businesses and let them know about the strategy.

Government Operations committee  I don't think we've plateaued with growth. Our—

Government Operations committee  We're seeing more businesses registering into the registry so that they can avail themselves of the procurement possibilities. There's more socialization, and I think companies are seeing that there's potential through federal procurement.

Government Operations committee  I'm not sure I understand—

Government Operations committee  Yes, I know. It's in there, and I'm trying to think of the context in which that was said.

Government Operations committee  Certainly in the shipbuilding work, we did work with the companies. There is a working group, and it includes indigenous groups as well, to figure out and get ahead of where those longer-term job opportunities are going to be. We've had ESDC engaged as well so that we can line up

Government Operations committee  That decision hasn't been made yet. The mandate letter made it clear that Minister Philpott would have indigenous services and that Minister Bennett would have more of the nation-to-nation, longer-term arrangement. At this point in time, it looks like it might be in the indigeno

Government Operations committee  I think in the end, it's about the strategy of providing services to businesses and having federal departments coordinate around the opportunity. It could go in either department in some ways, depending on how you look at it. In the end, it's a strategy. It's a program. It works

Government Operations committee  That's correct.

Government Operations committee  Can I add one answer? Another challenge we have with the data we have in the system is that businesses may not always register themselves with the same name, so the move to business numbers is going to help us to track the activity of indigenous businesses better. They may chan

Government Operations committee  The modern treaties are certainly negotiated through what might be considered the CIRNA side. Once they are in place, all departments are actually obligated to follow those treaties and implement them. It really isn't necessarily CIRNA overseeing. They will do the broader analysi